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The older Vipers, and really to some extent the new ones, are just a big engine on wheels. There is no traction control, etc and there is ALOT of torque. Its difficult to control and even more so if you are trying to maximize a track time. You can read about it in many places, its just quite a bit more difficult to control than most cars. Dodge gave the Viper a VERY small budget when they designed it so creature comforts, etc are not on par with many other cars like the Z. The Esprit is similar to this but not as bad. There are also some threads here that you coudl find with SEARCH.I think that the BIGGEST panty dropper woudl be either the Viper or the C5, maybe with the NSX close behind. The Viper does look VERy exotic; if youve ever seen one on the road, they are very low, and very wide. I think both the Viper and Vette (unfortunately; after all, it IS a Chevy) both are more apepaling to women than a Z. Dont worry about the women though. They will liek any of those cars, but truthfully, they will decide to sleep with you or not based more on other things =)

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