Subject	You're missing all the flaws in this test
Posted by	SeedyROM on September 11, 2003 at 11:32 PM
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In Reply To	they showed a 12 hp increase in a 300ish hp NA over posted by T0M on September 11, 2003 at 10:53 PM
Message	You'd also be surprised to learn about the differences in turbos versus NAs when it comes to exhaust and how it exits the car. But enough about that...did you even notice the H-pipe versus X-pipe difference? Did you also know we've had a 10hp gain on a Z by going from H-pipe to X-pipe? Shall I even bring up the fact that the variables in this test cannot be compared to our cars? Do they even give us a chart to talk about? Did you not see the part that mentioned how the carbureted 302 responded to the changes (two jet sizes!)? Sure, these are all things that are affected by exhaust, but the variables change depending upon the car especially when the air/fuel system is completely different and you don't have huge turbos drastically changing the exhaust speed and temperature. Clearly you don't want to listen to logic and reasoning and the second you find something that says the opposite you act like it is gospel. There's no need for that man...we're all here to make our cars faster, more powerful and reliable. What POSSIBLE reason do you think I have for challenging this? What do I have to gain? I'm a stubborn bastard, but I do read quite a bit and I talk with a great many tuners and car people all the time :) I don't know everything, but I can tell you why *I* wouldn't want 3" unless I was pushing over 600hp. If you want it and feel the need to justify it, go for it. My 300Zs: www.zheaven.com - Have a question about either of my 300ZXs? Answers lie within. Admin: www.350ZForum.com - Your source for the lastest info on the new Nissan 350Z! Writer: www.SportZMagazine.com - Nothing but Z cars from cover to cover! Subscribe today! Moderator: www.TwinTurbo.net - Hands down, the best site for 90-96 Z car info and discussion!
Follow Ups	Food for thought about 2.5" and 3" exhaust pipe sizing - T0M 22:23:48 09/11/03 It is NOT peak power, it is a smooth power band. Cmon people - SeedyROM 22:29:27 09/11/03 Oh and I don't mean to sound like a dick :) - SeedyROM 22:41:57 09/11/03 my traps were fast... 2.5" vs 3" proven wrong.. ;) (n/m) - Scotts94z32 05:04:58 09/12/03 they showed a 12 hp increase in a 300ish hp NA over - T0M 22:53:26 09/11/03 You're missing all the flaws in this test - SeedyROM 23:32:53 09/11/03 first off, my post title was "food for thought" not "etched - T0M 23:58:26 09/11/03 Understood...maybe if you had read my other post - SeedyROM 00:09:36 09/12/03 I didnt call you a dick. nor did I insult you once. (n/m) - T0M 00:13:33 09/12/03 hahah seedy you dick *GRIN* (n/m) - Silvrhand (pittsburgh) 08:04:18 09/12/03 test is more or less flawed. - zads 04:36:11 09/12/03 The 2.5 inch was w/ an H pipe. 3" was w/ X pipe. - Kenny 9 psi 23:21:02 09/11/03 Glad someone read the article. (n/m) - SeedyROM 23:33:34 09/11/03 the point was.... it didn't harm performance but in fact - T0M 23:38:37 09/11/03 Not to be the devil's advocate but two things: - SeedyROM 23:45:01 09/11/03 True not very scientific, but the 1/2" larger than 3" - T0M 00:08:43 09/12/03 Yeah, adding an X-pipe didn't hurt performance either. - SeedyROM 00:14:26 09/12/03 x-pipes are for low-to-midrange torque. - T0M 00:23:30 09/12/03 Intarwebb != real life. (n/m) - Kenny 9 psi 00:15:35 09/12/03 kinda funny - JunomeanGF 00:24:14 09/12/03 No doubt. I'll let someone else play with this. - SeedyROM 00:35:52 09/12/03 I walked my girl out mid-post so the window was open - T0M 00:43:12 09/12/03 Not trying to sound like a dick btw :) - T0M 00:45:25 09/12/03
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