Subject	You might run into problems with liquid nitrogen
Posted by	madman99 on July 29, 2003 at 1:45 PM
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In Reply To	nitrous is colder than CO2, by about 58 degrees F. posted by Scotts94z32 on July 29, 2003 at 01:32 PM
Message	for instance, the metal that the intercooler is made of will change may change structurally with repeated deep cooling and heating cycles causing the metal to become stronger, but far more brittle. As long as the air that passes through the intercooler doesn't get too cold then you shouldn't have the same thermal issues in the engine intake system. Also, I'd hope you aren't using any rubber connectors in that system as the rubber would lose all flexibility at liquid nitrogen temps and will just crack into pieces if flexed. Interesting idea though I'd suggest staying with something warmer, i.e. dry ice. :: how jedi are you?:: sorry. I'm not a smurf pimp any more. (n/m) - sbsTT(MD) 00:00:18 02/07/02 It will suck back in a little on each pulse >> - AshsZ (Fab Whore, GED) 16:07:22 05/20/02
Follow Ups	Dyno Day: ZEMulator tuning, TD05-16G, FMIC, 555, NOS - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:36:28 07/28/03 too bad its ugly as ..well its ugly (n/m) - genic 16:40:21 07/28/03 LOL, I wont say anything about the TA's. ;-) (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:40:56 07/28/03 fair enough :) (n/m) - genic 16:43:55 07/28/03 Thanks everyone for the help - OUTLAW 17:20:09 07/28/03 *ahem* most respectably to this post - cant_z_me(OH) 01:19:16 07/29/03 I guess this post stands to be corrected.. - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 20:02:56 07/29/03 Re: Dyno Day: ZEMulator tuning, TD05-16G, FMIC, 555, NOS - Magnum 16:41:30 07/28/03 He apparently has some money on some personal races... - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:43:50 07/28/03 Re: He apparently has some money on some personal races... - Magnum 16:44:31 07/28/03 75 shot. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:45:18 07/28/03 741.1HP & 679tq w/ 555's ?! (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 16:44:55 07/28/03 Wet shots are nice. :) (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:45:36 07/28/03 Re: Wet shots are nice. :) - Magnum 16:48:23 07/28/03 Nope. It was lower. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:50:28 07/28/03 care to elaborate ? (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 16:51:28 07/28/03 ~22psi. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:53:06 07/28/03 man of many words..yet in this case - genic 17:01:10 07/28/03 jaimnncn asd asdu eruhoa djh kjsd fk dkdla; - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:05:09 07/28/03 damn you...you are no fun now - genic 17:06:04 07/28/03 Doolz? (n/m) - fourZero 16:50:33 07/28/03 It was HKS dual intake (n/m) - John@Z1 16:53:20 07/28/03 so hks intakes w/ the jwt dual setup than ? - Chris(NJ) 16:56:38 07/28/03 I noticed that too (n/m) - Zeus 17:00:51 07/28/03 No, the customer provided the HKS setup - Russell@Z1 17:06:55 07/28/03 i think that's ash's custom dual intake. (n/m) - SUPRMANZ 17:51:18 07/28/03 gee, thanks - fourZero 17:52:44 07/28/03 FNA awesome! Rear spoiler looks good. The front? Well... (n/m) - Kevin (CA) 16:54:20 07/28/03 pretty cool. (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 16:56:08 07/28/03 Good answer, Same answer on last post, but good answer! (n/m) - Robert@Z1 16:57:41 07/28/03 Actually, I'm more impressed with John's work. - Dallas DamonZ 18:55:38 07/28/03 nasty looking, but nice #'s, was that 16 pulls with NOx? (n/m) - madman99 16:58:49 07/28/03 No, only about the last 6 pulls were with NOS. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:59:57 07/28/03 Patrick Heard = Outlaw? (n/m) - 300zx300zx300zx 17:00:29 07/28/03 You got it. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:00:59 07/28/03 DAMN! Very nice! Run it at the strip. Does it have a cage? (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:00:43 07/28/03 Unfortunately, no. It needs one now though.. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:06:04 07/28/03 If I was the owner with that power, I'd do it NOW! (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:18:07 07/28/03 I am still waiting to hear what you think you can do >>> - PEwithaZ 17:00:51 07/28/03 Impressive. - ZHOUND 17:01:43 07/28/03 How much boost did you run on your 131 mph pass? (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:03:20 07/28/03 Re: How much boost did you run on your 131 mph pass? - ZHOUND 17:08:35 07/28/03 Sorry, I just checked. 129. Thx (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:15:17 07/28/03 Yeah, stock engine... (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:03:35 07/28/03 What kind of gas? (n/m) - ZHOUND 17:07:21 07/28/03 VP 110. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:09:01 07/28/03 Did you look at the plugs afterwards? - ZHOUND 17:35:21 07/28/03 Not yet.... Will post about those later though.. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:42:32 07/28/03 What FMIC does he have? And did you freeze >>> - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:02:33 07/28/03 Apollo FMIC, Yes we did freeze it. (n/m) - Robert@Z1 17:03:42 07/28/03 LIke I have always said, the FMIC is the WAY TO GO>>> - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:12:09 07/28/03 You mean if you want a dyno queen? ;) - SeedyROM 17:18:50 07/28/03 lol. yeah, I'd like to see the pressure drop on that run ;) (n/m) - aliaZ 17:30:55 07/28/03 I was talking about the other FMICs, like Border, mine... (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:13:36 07/28/03 I'd still like to see pressure drop measurements - aliaZ 14:36:32 07/29/03 I have a Greddy core:-) 600x300x100mm (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:11:25 07/29/03 What was the highest dyno pull off the bottle? (n/m) - SR Productions 17:03:14 07/28/03 520-580 something... (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:04:03 07/28/03 Re: 520-580 something... - SR Productions 17:06:20 07/28/03 And we froze the intercooler! (n/m) - Robert@Z1 17:09:19 07/28/03 Maybe they hadn't done all that tuning yet off the bottle? - SeedyROM 17:09:26 07/28/03 Re: Re: 520-580 something... - ZHOUND 17:15:10 07/28/03 Yeah, please take it to the track! Show me the mph! >> - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:17:02 07/28/03 And get video! That'd rock! (n/m) - SeedyROM 17:20:23 07/28/03 Hey. - ZHOUND 17:24:52 07/28/03 bahahahahaha - SeedyROM 17:29:48 07/28/03 Add link to this post in profile =). (n/m) - Kenny 9 psi 19:15:54 07/28/03 Re: I will be @ steele sunday the 3rd - OUTLAW 17:45:22 07/28/03 Cool. Good luck. (n/m) - ZHOUND 17:59:43 07/28/03 Ditto that! (n/m) - SeedyROM 18:20:59 07/28/03 Ditto that! (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 18:42:02 07/28/03 I take it Auto? Please come prepared :) - ZBlacktt 19:03:20 07/28/03 5spd (n/m) - John@Z1 21:09:35 07/28/03 Profile over sight :( (n/m) - ZBlacktt 01:17:40 07/29/03 Was that without freezing the IC? - Good2Zya 22:51:01 07/28/03 I'd be willing to bet that this car would make that power - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 20:11:58 07/29/03 wow...gotta say, I'm impressed. - Spee 17:04:38 07/28/03 My sentiments exactly :) - SeedyROM 17:08:36 07/28/03 Dyno-Jet? I got a call this morning about it. - Chip(GMS Racing) 17:11:52 07/28/03 It was Higgins Ford Automotive... Yes, a dyno-jet. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 20:40:11 07/28/03 Re: Dyno Day: ZEMulator tuning, TD05-16G, FMIC, 555, NOS - 1991TT300zx 17:16:19 07/28/03 What turbos does he have??? (n/m) - 1991TT300zx 17:17:04 07/28/03 lol, it's in the subject line, TD05-16G (n/m) - Zeus 17:19:33 07/28/03 lol (n/m) - Snoguitar 17:23:20 07/28/03 Jay drives a Stage VIII Pearl White 1991 Twin Turbo coupe?? - ZBlacktt 18:22:39 07/28/03 Knight Rider 300Z, (play Knight Rider music here) (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:28:58 07/28/03 That should put you FMIC haters to rest with those - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:29:39 07/28/03 Why? (n/m) - Snoguitar 17:35:12 07/28/03 Oh please...that is hardly conclusive - aliaZ 17:37:27 07/28/03 The TD05-16G is at it's limits. If it had a huge pressure - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:44:03 07/28/03 at 22 psi? - aliaZ 17:56:21 07/28/03 Hardly. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 18:06:56 07/28/03 Not a chance. - SeedyROM 18:20:28 07/28/03 not so much (n/m) - Spee 20:35:08 07/28/03 Nice numbers----> - Kyle(Houston) 17:34:33 07/28/03 Thanks man.. My Bonneville guys told me about using - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:37:20 07/28/03 Yeah I have heard of it being done...just never imagined---> - Kyle(Houston) 17:44:31 07/28/03 No, we used N2O. Its the NX FMIC NOS sprayer.. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:46:33 07/28/03 Wouldn't CO2 be more cost effective? - GamblerZ 20:38:51 07/28/03 Wow, that's amazing... - KILLR300ZX 19:22:30 07/28/03 Stupid Q...How do you freeze an Intercooler? Do you use that - hoss 17:41:56 07/28/03 I believe it is the NX kit. It sprays NOS onto the FMIC - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:43:40 07/28/03 Neat. Excellent work, btw. (n/m) - hoss 17:47:20 07/28/03 given thought to LN2? Colder than LCO2, and cheap. (n/m) - Scotts94z32 18:10:15 07/28/03 why not just utilize the N20 plumbing already there? - fourZero 18:15:58 07/28/03 true, but LN2 is colder (-321F BP versus -129F for N20) - Scotts94z32 13:31:10 07/29/03 Re: I believe it is the NX kit. It sprays NOS onto the FMIC - SR Productions 20:35:29 07/28/03 Re: I believe it is the NX kit. It sprays NOS onto the FMIC - SR Productions 23:02:11 07/28/03 Re: Nice numbers----> - SR Productions 17:46:17 07/28/03 The intercooler is not frozen. (n/m) - John@Z1 17:53:18 07/28/03 Apollo FMIC, Yes we did freeze it. (n/m) - Robert@Z1 18:03:4 (n/m) - Halo Z 18:27:22 07/28/03 LOL, he means they sprayed it down with the kit - SeedyROM 18:28:57 07/28/03 Thanks Seedy, you think good. (n/m) - John@Z1 21:47:00 07/28/03 That can be done anytime you want. - Russell@Z1 17:54:40 07/28/03 Your toy is in the mail. It'll be there tomorrow. (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 18:59:04 07/28/03 Thank you Thank you Thank you and THANK YOU ;-)............. (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 21:45:43 07/28/03 How do you freeze it? (n/m) - TwinTurboPete 00:40:22 07/29/03 I'm sold... - Pelleon 17:37:35 07/28/03 Nice numbers, but I'd like to see a better FMIC - aliaZ 17:42:50 07/28/03 Yes we can, it just requires a little fabrication (n/m) - Russell@Z1 17:48:31 07/28/03 why not? Maybe he had the 3.5" core (n/m) - TwinTurboPete 00:42:15 07/29/03 still too small. Its an overall poor design (n/m) - aliaZ 08:38:03 07/29/03 Its 3.5 x 11 x 24. - TwinTurboPete 13:37:13 07/29/03 proven itself?!?! bah...give me pressure drop numbers please - aliaZ 14:33:35 07/29/03 Do you have any pressue drop measurements for sidemounts? (n/m) - TwinTurboPete 14:40:27 07/29/03 not yet - aliaZ 16:33:06 07/29/03 WOW...few questions... - ix3 17:50:30 07/28/03 4th gear, sounds crazy as hell. You can fell the power - John@Z1 17:56:35 07/28/03 **Sigh** I'm so ready for my car to be done. Nice job! (n/m) - RegalZ 17:56:28 07/28/03 congrats. you guys deserve it. (n/m) - joel(PA) 18:11:01 07/28/03 It would have to come from a Z that looks like a Supra :( - ZBlacktt 18:14:53 07/28/03 and :) - ZBlacktt 18:36:48 07/28/03 I was thinking exactly the same thing:-) (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:50:24 07/28/03 you can measure exhaust back pressure by t-ing into the - Scotts94z32 13:35:07 07/29/03 ok, I was asking what did he do to measure :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 14:52:39 07/29/03 Work Wheels? (n/m) - U ZCREAM 18:19:38 07/28/03 Those are some crazy numbers. Congrats! (n/m) - 1BADTTZ 18:37:16 07/28/03 Great numbers - Marshall 18:38:46 07/28/03 That's pretty amazing Ash. Nice job! (n/m) - Adam A. 18:39:03 07/28/03 very very nice #'s! (n/m) - Wagz 18:44:39 07/28/03 wow, I'm impressed (n/m) - Janders 18:59:25 07/28/03 The leaders in progressive engineuity! Congrats Z1! (n/m) - Z1TRUTH 20:09:49 07/28/03 8-O Sweet! (n/m) - BryZ32TT 20:31:32 07/28/03 I never thought a stock internal Z would ever pull those... - P Rock(OH) 21:09:24 07/28/03 Congrats!!! You are amazing. (n/m) - TwinTurboPete 00:36:04 07/29/03 It's not sex, for Christ's sake! (n/m) - xxbulovax91xx 04:38:39 07/29/03 Cool, good to hear about more high horse Z's. (n/m) - Sportzcoop 00:36:30 07/29/03 Why the drop in 5500-6300 rpm? - weingart 01:00:31 07/29/03 Amazing. So is this officially the highest RWHP on a stock - degradated 01:46:51 07/29/03 There are actually two NOS fogger nozzles aimed at the - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 09:25:01 07/29/03 Nice results. - Rob.M @ Downshift Magazine 06:53:41 07/29/03 Nice #'s guys, now get Ash on my car pronto!!! (n/m) - NSANY(ATL) 08:08:34 07/29/03 im just curious about the 555s, how is that enough fuel? - JJtwinturbo 13:19:32 07/29/03 nitrous is colder than CO2, by about 58 degrees F. - Scotts94z32 13:32:30 07/29/03 You might run into problems with liquid nitrogen - madman99 13:45:32 07/29/03 well, temp cycling to this extreme for most metals will - Scotts94z32 13:57:07 07/29/03 im just curious about the 555s, how is that enough fuel? - JJtwinturbo 13:49:18 07/29/03 nice! - georgeu2000 14:32:11 07/29/03
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