| the thing is you have to wait until twilight because of the ultra long exposure time for the ones with the light streaks. if its too bright out the pic will be way over exposed. for the others wait til just after the sun dipps down for that nice horizon line. its that portion of the day you hear some photographers refer to as the window. about 20 or so minutes after sunset for a flashless shot thats very rich and bright. for many of the pics it was much darker than it looks but a longer exp time does it. all of these required a tripod.

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