Subject	The car you are referring to had the Border FMIC.>>
Posted by	B-Ster on May 20, 2003 at 10:43 PM
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In Reply To	I did...power is power---> posted by Kyle(Houston) on May 20, 2003 at 09:40 PM
Message	Perhaps the best way to put it is like this: The side mount intercoolers will have the intake charge nowhere near ambient if you are making 500+ rwhp. Power goes down, chances of detonation goes up, etc. Pushing the TD 05's to 28 psi is pushing them way outside of their efficiency range and your air temps would be extreme. To run 28 psi through them w/o nitrous would mean heatsoaking the snot out of your motor. There is no way anyone could keep their hands on a side mount intercooler pushing more than 500 + rwhp.....your hand would quite simply burn. B.
Follow Ups	The debate over front or side mounted intercoolers - KillerAce 16:05:42 05/20/03 Sidemounts are sufficient unless you plan on huge power (n/m) - boileralum 16:07:36 05/20/03 Big power, big intercooler? - KillerAce 16:11:04 05/20/03 Side mounts are fine, FMIC just looks better (n/m) - JMT-Z(St. Louis) 16:22:48 05/20/03 I'd debate the "looks better" part too. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 16:44:18 05/20/03 youre right looks are in the eye of the beholder, to me - JMT-Z(St. Louis) 16:53:56 05/20/03 I vote for "looks WAY WAY WAY better." (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 16:57:50 05/20/03 22nd (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 17:17:50 05/20/03 i vote looks like sh*t...not to mention when it gets pelted! (n/m) - Fuzznutz 23:26:16 05/20/03 side mounts...front mount is for looks - Spee 16:30:32 05/20/03 so were Converse sneakers, but I still wear them... no FMIC - Scotts94z32 16:58:06 05/20/03 I like Converse, thin soles... can feel the pedals. (n/m) - Funky (NWZ) 21:54:40 05/20/03 I wanna see before & after dyno charts >> - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 16:52:07 05/20/03 The answer is: It wont help you for dragging. - SeedyROM 17:31:28 05/20/03 By the way, emphasis on YOU. - SeedyROM 17:31:57 05/20/03 Car will heat up somewhat with the A/C on and a FMIC>> - B-Ster 16:55:53 05/20/03 Yeah, I'll wait till I upgrade to WAY bigger turbos. (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:05:10 05/20/03 wow...thats high....question - Chris(NJ) 17:17:00 05/20/03 Howe radiator, stock fan, billion 65C high flow thermostat. (n/m) - B-Ster 17:23:37 05/20/03 ..and a JUN hood that clears hot underhood air very well. (n/m) - B-Ster 08:03:57 05/21/03 I believe the available aftermarket sidemounts flow for a - U ZCREAM 17:21:38 05/20/03 No way the Greddy sidemounts will efficiently flow 800 hp. (n/m) - B-Ster 17:24:20 05/20/03 Greddy's can and have done 700hp...no idea about 800. - SeedyROM 17:29:01 05/20/03 Ok, sounds about right. I said I wasn't sure on the numbers - U ZCREAM 17:37:21 05/20/03 I ran 700Rwhp with side mount Greddy intercoolers----> - Kyle(Houston) 18:11:36 05/20/03 I call BS! Where's the dyno sheet? ;-) (n/m) - BryZ32TT 18:30:06 05/20/03 Track times vs Weight > Dyno sheet ;-P______________ (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 18:31:54 05/20/03 Keep in mind here that Nitrous cools the intake charge - B-Ster 19:05:03 05/20/03 Stay tuned, you just might :) - SeedyROM 20:06:10 05/20/03 We went with the Border FMIC b/c when you feel a TD 05 - B-Ster 20:23:14 05/20/03 Been meaning to say, nice Sig. (n/m) - Funky (NWZ) 21:53:21 05/20/03 I did...power is power---> - Kyle(Houston) 21:40:33 05/20/03 Devin said there's a Z in Japan running over 700 rwhp with - Only1Z 22:13:02 05/20/03 The car you are referring to had the Border FMIC.>> - B-Ster 22:43:23 05/20/03 I am not saying that the air temps won't be extreme etc..... - Kyle(Houston) 07:44:12 05/21/03 Two things: - B-Ster 08:10:18 05/21/03 I agree... - Kyle(Houston) 08:54:19 05/21/03 Kyle, as you well know, I am likely at least 550 RWHP >> - Mike (Austin) 12:59:20 05/21/03 Very, very well said and I agree. Great examples as well. (n/m) - B-Ster 16:00:00 05/21/03 Again....you are the .001% -----> - Kyle(Houston) 21:37:10 05/21/03 Side mounts are better for 98% of people on this forum - SeedyROM 17:27:33 05/20/03 I like the look of FMIC and if they turn out to cool more... - Vaultr 17:29:49 05/20/03 I would assume that with the fog light air ducts that are - JMT-Z(St. Louis) 17:54:48 05/20/03 Good point. I've only seen maybe one picture with the intake - Vaultr 20:17:13 05/20/03 Carbon Fiber fog lamp ducts are being fabbed in Aruba:-) (n/m) - govaardz(Aruba) 13:57:56 05/21/03 I have side mounts on the way because I don't like the idea - Only1Z 18:59:06 05/20/03
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