Subject	Opinion wanted on injectors/intercoolers
Posted by	blaZe(Dallas) on May 07, 2003 at 1:55 PM
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Message	I've got my flame retardant suit on so fire away. I have a 93 TTZ and will be installing HKS2530's soon. I'm on a budget, am older than the average member and don't drive the car hard (it's my DD). Obviously the 2530's can push >500rwhp which puts them at the limit of what 555cc injectors can handle. However, since I don't like to waste money, is it worth $200 more (or $400 more for the border kit) to get the 740cc injectors along with the fuel rails, machined lower plenum, etc.? I want to do it right the first time, but if the 555's will handle >500rwhp without flinching then I'd rather not spend the time and money on larger injectors. Search tells me ppl are split on this, so I'm hoping to get more solid answers than "just get larger injectors and be safe" or "740cc's idle like crap". Second question - and this one should get the flames started earlier - FMIC or SMIC's if I really only care about durability of the IC's and the car and the cooling capacity of the IC's (ie, I really don't care about the looks of the IC's as I'm not into building a showcar or impressing the girls)? Thanks in advance for sharing your opinion, whether I agree with it or not.
Follow Ups	Opinion wanted on injectors/intercoolers - blaZe(Dallas) 13:55:03 05/07/03 How old is the average member? (n/m) - sebring1970 (robo) 14:23:52 05/07/03 Good question - and I have an answer - blaZe(Dallas) 14:25:31 05/07/03 You'll notice I didn't ask how old you are ;c) (n/m) - sebring1970 (robo) 14:26:43 05/07/03 I did notice....very considerate of you. - blaZe(Dallas) 14:28:32 05/07/03 Lol. Well, by inference from your posts, over 30 yo. - sebring1970 (robo) 14:41:42 05/07/03 What about the avg age of members? (n/m) - blaZe(Dallas) 14:52:20 05/07/03 I was guessing your age. Members? I dunno, 26-27 yo? (n/m) - sebring1970 (robo) 15:03:05 05/07/03 I know, and I think you're probably pretty darn close - blaZe(Dallas) 15:05:46 05/07/03 No worries - thanks for the interesting conversation tho (n/m) - blaZe(Dallas) 14:52:56 05/07/03 Side. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 14:29:59 05/07/03 Thx for your vote. (n/m) - blaZe(Dallas) 14:32:44 05/07/03 SMIC. 740's don't fit 93 lower plenums. 555's should be fine - MugenRacer 14:33:54 05/07/03 cant you buy a 94+ lower plenum? (n/m) - ix3 14:45:57 05/07/03 no - aliaZ 14:59:47 05/07/03 Yes you can, just take one off the car >>>. - ZBlacktt 15:46:45 05/07/03 ???...he said 94+ (n/m) - aliaZ 15:55:28 05/07/03 LOL, Well any year can have them ;) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 16:09:43 05/07/03 740cc will fit - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 14:46:11 05/07/03 Do you have an opinion on injector size Chip? (n/m) - blaZe(Dallas) 14:53:37 05/07/03 With the border fuel rail? - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 16:13:48 05/07/03 Helps if I read CAREFULLY huh? (n/m) - MugenRacer 15:13:11 05/07/03 side. - ni[X]it 14:35:38 05/07/03 Where can I learn more about the custom para. fuel system? (n/m) - blaZe(Dallas) 14:51:21 05/07/03 I might sell mine if you are interested. (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:53:55 05/07/03 I was gonna do a tech on one... - ni[X]it 14:54:26 05/07/03 one "Y" and no dampner, one regulator. (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:57:09 05/07/03 depends on the fuel pump used. - ni[X]it 15:00:32 05/07/03 I used a stock fuel pump then upgraded to twin (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:01:27 05/07/03 There is no need for twin fuel regulator. It all comes - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:21:07 05/07/03 I dont think you understand what i am getting at. - ni[X]it 15:32:24 05/07/03 Why would twin regualtors be a better design? - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:37:38 05/07/03 k. - ni[X]it 17:00:24 05/07/03 You would want twin fuel lines coming in then for - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:40:53 05/07/03 PS, I need to add again; "IMHO" - ni[X]it 17:07:14 05/07/03 Link to my fuel line pics - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:02:05 05/07/03 very nice. Fwiw; I am JEALOUS of these type of posts... - ni[X]it 15:05:10 05/07/03 Pictures worth thousands of words - blaZe(Dallas) 15:10:55 05/07/03 I might be selling my fuel rail and lines if I get the borde - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:17:24 05/07/03 Check email (n/m) - blaZe(Dallas) 15:21:53 05/07/03 FMIC and 555. (FMIC just because I want to be different) (n/m) - 2-turbos 14:38:24 05/07/03 "Being Different" = Highly Over Rated. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 15:05:58 05/07/03 Come on Bernie, be different! (n/m) - 2-turbos 15:30:18 05/07/03 agreed (n/m) - aliaZ 15:46:38 05/07/03 3rdedededdeded (n/m) - Spee 16:14:12 05/07/03 Side Mounts and 740's - aliaZ 14:58:28 05/07/03 Any idea on failure rates and whether that had anything - blaZe(Dallas) 15:13:32 05/07/03 no idea on driving habits - aliaZ 15:17:32 05/07/03 You're probably right - I need to do more searching - blaZe(Dallas) 15:23:13 05/07/03 it may be more $$ up front, but money well spent IMHO - aliaZ 15:29:08 05/07/03 I know failure rates are hard to come by if even possible to - blaZe(Dallas) 15:38:23 05/07/03 I have seen Nismo 555's fail in less than a year - aliaZ 15:43:31 05/07/03 Yeah, injector failure can be catastrophic, and I - blaZe(Dallas) 15:46:01 05/07/03 BTW - thx for the info on the SM. Just what I was - blaZe(Dallas) 15:14:04 05/07/03 FMIC = All Hype (IMHO) - aliaZ 15:24:36 05/07/03 I'm surprised at how many choose FMIC's - blaZe(Dallas) 15:27:27 05/07/03 it's really all about looks. - ni[X]it 15:30:37 05/07/03 Many high power cars have FMIC. I think the FMIC - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:33:02 05/07/03 I have to disagree 100%, but have no supporting data. (n/m) - ni[X]it 15:34:28 05/07/03 What if I pick up power when I go to the Border FMIC? >>> - Mike (Austin) 17:20:06 05/07/03 most don't do enough research IMHO - aliaZ 15:31:26 05/07/03 I don't see me ever drag racing, but I'd like to - blaZe(Dallas) 15:36:01 05/07/03 go to Hallet in September - aliaZ 15:39:29 05/07/03 If the mods are in and the car runs well by then - blaZe(Dallas) 15:43:07 05/07/03 I'll definitely go again - aliaZ 15:45:25 05/07/03 If I could afford a DD it would be easier for me to - blaZe(Dallas) 15:50:43 05/07/03 i might. - ni[X]it 17:11:32 05/07/03 yep - aliaZ 17:47:00 05/07/03 HKS FMIC is same as Side's in measurements, just mounting. (n/m) - ZBlacktt 15:52:55 05/07/03 yep - aliaZ 15:59:42 05/07/03 Dual Front mounts in the side mount location with Border 850 (n/m) - BigTDogg 15:10:44 05/07/03 The cheap option heh? - blaZe(Dallas) 15:14:45 05/07/03 Stick with side mounts the FMIC is overkill on your turbos (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:24:47 05/07/03 555s and side mounts (n/m) - Spee 16:07:10 05/07/03 side mounts and 555cc injectors will get you 550 Rwhp---> - Kyle(Houston) 16:11:03 05/07/03 you guys work on the super secret 3000zx too? - Spee 16:19:53 05/07/03 yeah it is a 3000zx cause it has Naaaawwwwzzzzz dawg :-).... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 16:25:04 05/07/03 LOL. - ZHOUND 18:33:12 05/07/03 Level 10...he had the domestic to go <10.50's......... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 21:02:36 05/07/03 :) (n/m) - Spee 19:52:19 05/07/03 I'd go Nismo 555cc's and Stillen Side Mount Intercoolers - xxbulovax91xx 21:37:13 05/07/03 Thx for the opinion (n/m) - blaZe(Dallas) 08:01:58 05/08/03
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