Subject	Was playing around with Toluene today in my '96... heh
Posted by	Funky (NWZ) on April 29, 2003 at 11:45 PM
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In Reply To	made 280 hp cuz boost was lower posted by Mike (La Canada) on April 29, 2003 at 11:31 PM
Message	Running 15% Toluene in my car right now, runs _very_ well. Surprisingly the power delivery feels a little smoother while building boost. I thought it was just my imagination, but then my buddy commented "... does it seem smoother to you? or am I on crack?" I was shocked to find out how common it is for people to run Toluene around this area. You can't get racegas anywhere, so it drives people to do other things. The paint shop I was buying it from... the guy asks "so.. what are you doing with this stuff? cutting huge amounts of 2-part epoxy or something?" me: "eer... well..." him: "you know, we always keep a few 5-gallon jugs in back for a guy who buys the stuff to put in his racecar, you believe that?" me: "really? heh" Typical 92 octane pump gas has 9% toluene, 100 octane unleaded race fuel has around 27% toluene. So I just added 15% toluene to my 92, gets it to just under 96 octane. The car runs extremely well at 1 bar. On regular 92 it would start to ping around .90. I didn't try pushing the boost any higher to see when I would start to get ping, 1 bar is fine... for now. :) I'm expecting the 24% (15% + 9%) to be safe for the fuel system, some guys run over 30% in addition to the stuff that is already in the fuel. Crazy fools. It really feels the same as it did when I was running pure 100 AKI race fuel last year, it's just a little easier to get. Anyway, just thought I'd share. I know not many people on tt.net run Toluene. If I could get 100 AKI at the pump, I would much prefer to do that! You really get that race-fuel exhaust smell too, lol.
Follow Ups	95 vs 96 - JB20 22:55:10 04/29/03 96s did not have variable valve timing. - Bobby12many 22:57:42 04/29/03 Injectors are not really an issue same as 95s however. - YugoBernie (NoVA) 23:08:25 04/29/03 So theres a hall effect sensor in the bellhousing for the - Bobby12many 23:10:25 04/29/03 Yes - it's the one hole you have to cork or just leave - YugoBernie (NoVA) 23:16:54 04/29/03 I gotcha. ANy differences in Flywheel mounting? (n/m) - Bobby12many 23:18:16 04/29/03 No the hardware is the same - just added that sensor in 96 (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 23:21:30 04/29/03 I wouldn't say they are 'harder' to mod per se... - Funky (NWZ) 23:27:56 04/29/03 yeah u r right about the light on the JWT! U know why? (n/m) - red300ztt 00:22:08 04/30/03 No, not sure what they did... I think I'll call them and ask (n/m) - Funky (NWZ) 09:58:08 04/30/03 Actually, the rear O2's can just be tied up to to the chaise - ChazZ 01:15:47 04/30/03 Mike did not get a CEL by tapping them into TP's - Funky (NWZ) 09:57:33 04/30/03 made 280 hp cuz boost was lower - Mike (La Canada) 23:31:52 04/29/03 "set" - how so? (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 23:35:44 04/29/03 Was playing around with Toluene today in my '96... heh - Funky (NWZ) 23:45:18 04/29/03 My '96 was running about 9 psi stock. *shrug* (n/m) - Funky (NWZ) 23:46:14 04/29/03 thats funny, mine was running 9psi....? (n/m) - red300ztt 00:20:14 04/30/03 aka safety boost (n/m) - aliaZ 00:55:42 04/30/03 on a bone stock car, don't think so. (n/m) - Mike (La Canada) 01:08:21 04/30/03 bone stock doesn't matter - aliaZ 01:15:32 04/30/03 Re: bone stock doesn't matter - darnold.il 07:42:21 04/30/03 ?? ok ?? you misinterpreted my post - aliaZ 08:45:39 04/30/03 Until recently, there was no ECU for the 96>> - MugenRacer 22:58:21 04/29/03 1995's own all. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 23:01:40 04/29/03 2nd. Then there is Mike. (n/m) - MugenRacer 23:10:40 04/29/03 Yeah - but he's special. :-) (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 23:11:26 04/29/03 like genic? (n/m) - Guapo 23:13:32 04/29/03 No - Genic is "short bus" Special. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 23:18:11 04/29/03 oh ... my bad (n/m) - Guapo 23:20:02 04/29/03 Check out Chazz. He hit over 400rwhp on stock turbos - Mike (La Canada) 23:30:28 04/29/03 Hehe, those slow ass 96's - ChazZ 01:21:31 04/30/03 I'm thinking lower year models do better :) - ZBlacktt 09:10:00 04/30/03 Opps, make that one set of Stillen IC's :( (n/m) - ZBlacktt 09:13:20 04/30/03 True! (n/m) - DEEP-PURPLE 23:25:41 04/29/03 90's are the lightest, they are the fastest =c) (n/m) - CaptanZap 01:00:19 04/30/03 WooHoo! Go 90 TT's...Only the 5spd ones though ;) (n/m) - SaVageZ 01:17:20 04/30/03 weak (n/m) - CaptanZap 01:25:52 04/30/03 The trannys are. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 11:26:37 04/30/03 hater (n/m) - CaptanZap 11:56:22 04/30/03 I take it , this was after the soft valves where fix? ;) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 08:45:17 04/30/03 yo' momma has a soft valve!! (n/m) - CaptanZap 11:55:24 04/30/03 Your daddy's calling, time for you to collect a pay check ;) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 13:42:20 04/30/03 i dont get it.... (n/m) - CaptanZap 21:45:07 04/30/03 checkmate ;) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 01:40:11 05/01/03 You're bias... (n/m) - KaZ (jTTfz) VaBch 10:48:21 04/30/03 ...ed (n/m) - Spee 23:26:05 04/30/03
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