Subject	RE: analysis,
Posted by	niXit on March 18, 2003 at 1:45 PM
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In Reply To	If I had a thermo book handy, I would model the system posted by BigTDogg (BOOST-GASM!!!!!) on March 18, 2003 at 01:11 PM
Message	I attempted to model the stock system, then compare it to an FMIC setup, using minimal data I was getting from Chip (Ginn Motorsports). The problem is, there are about 15 variables specific to flow that are unknown. These variables are essential in measuring the effectiveness of the stock system versus upgraded side mounts, versus front mount. these variables include delta t of the intercoolers (stock, aftermarket, and FMIC), flow rates at certain pressures, turbo flow rates... intake manifold flow rates (back pressure)...etc...etc... there is also significant thermal properties that are all unknown. If you have an engine dyno, and a trmemndous collection of data aquasision hardware, this can be done. I don't have it, and stopped my initial analysis. PETZ (member #003)>
Follow Ups	Is it more feasable to put a water mist injection before or - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 10:17:09 03/18/03 FWIW; Aquamist GB is on permanent hold. - niXit 10:25:19 03/18/03 Thanx for the FYI, nixit. (n/m) - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 10:28:53 03/18/03 Its gonna be specific to the vehicle. - AshsZ (FabZEM All) 11:03:07 03/18/03 Thermodynamic transfer rate is higher as the difference - AshsZ (FabZEM All) 10:54:20 03/18/03 SEE, that is the way I was thinking (ie- injection right - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 11:31:54 03/18/03 Re: Thermodynamic transfer rate is higher as the difference - niXit 11:59:36 03/18/03 Devil's Advocate: You will decrease the flow through - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 12:34:21 03/18/03 But the hot water will transfer more of the heat to - AshsZ (FabZEM All) 14:18:29 03/18/03 So you think that more than makes up for the restriction? - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 15:22:59 03/18/03 If I had a thermo book handy, I would model the system - BigTDogg (BOOST-GASM!!!!!) 13:11:45 03/18/03 RE: analysis, - niXit 13:45:00 03/18/03 Agree 100% - RSR 13:54:54 03/18/03 True, and like Nixit said, there are many unknowns.. - BigTDogg (BOOST-GASM!!!!!) 14:06:36 03/18/03 However, that info could be easily collected with the - AshsZ (FabZEM All) 14:23:47 03/18/03 I have 16 channels of A-D I could employ to do this. - AshsZ (FabZEM All) 14:22:07 03/18/03 Question for you about aquamist testing - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 15:25:44 03/18/03 Empirical testing hands Sir. Theory his arse. :) (n/m) - AshsZ (FabZEM All) 14:24:31 03/18/03 I would be worried about the water falling - RSR 13:20:25 03/18/03 My biggest concern would be the corrosion of the IC's. - AshsZ (FabZEM All) 14:26:23 03/18/03 Good point. (n/m) - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 15:14:47 03/18/03 After reading all the posts, I'm left with one thought.. - -Ever- 18:11:50 03/18/03
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