Subject	Maybe, but when you start totalling things up... >>>
Posted by	KaZ (jTTfz) VaBch on March 10, 2003 at 3:17 PM
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In Reply To	Nope, but I bet a laptop is a helluva lot easier to use posted by AshsZ (FABio) on March 10, 2003 at 03:09 PM
Message	And adding everything together... your ECU ($$), plus the ZEmulators ($$), plus a laptop, even a used one ($$), and the pain in the ass of putting it all together to tune etc... vs the PFC... I'm pretty sure in the end it will be the consumers decision, as both will be viable options, but whether that person wants the simplicity of a remote with a learning curve, vs a bulking laptop with a easier curve, will be for him to decide. Later KaZ (jTTfz) VaBch - "Unique Z" Dyno'd - 339 RWHP / 369 RWTQ @ 17 TDC AIM - KaZsMiR / E-mail @ Hotmail - casimijg
Follow Ups	(Very soon), (Very, Very, Soon), (Now PFC) & (Now Power FC) - Spongerider (Now Power FC) 13:40:21 03/10/03 I wonder how many people really know what PFC is. (n/m) - ZHOUND 13:44:09 03/10/03 Private First Class..LOL (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 13:45:18 03/10/03 I sure as hell do! The RX-7 and Supra guys do too... - SeedyROM 13:47:00 03/10/03 Surprised!!!! I'm Japanese and you know what Mike (LaCanada - Spongerider (Now Power FC) 13:52:41 03/10/03 love you long time? (n/m) - Halo Z 13:54:49 03/10/03 smallest willies and really short in general??? LOL J/K (n/m) - Smurf Z 15:28:26 03/10/03 Raises Hand, "I Do!!!!" - niXit 13:47:09 03/10/03 Someone give Nixit a cookie. - ZHOUND 13:50:58 03/10/03 how much woudl that cost, they are awesome (n/m) - gtclk 14:02:20 03/10/03 somewhere in the area of $1,100 - $1,500 (n/m) - Arthur 14:06:19 03/10/03 Well, I'm sure Spongerider will offer them at a special - niXit 14:10:45 03/10/03 Or some ridilin - dragonballz 14:33:36 03/10/03 Too much info!!!! :) (n/m) - Spongerider (Now Power FC) 13:53:59 03/10/03 basically a programmable replacement ECU and controller... - Oppaman Z 13:49:44 03/10/03 wiggles index finger in the air, * i do, what do i win (n/m) - Halo Z 13:53:23 03/10/03 what? it's not Pan Fried Chicken? - Spee 13:56:15 03/10/03 Holy crap, those are good numbers at that boost - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 13:44:49 03/10/03 I'm not a tuner *wink, wink* and don't want to give out - Spongerider (Now Power FC) 13:58:34 03/10/03 Gee, I wonder if Greg Dupree knows about that guy? (n/m) - Marshall 21:43:53 03/10/03 hehe I have a evin spending grin! :-) (n/m) - TARGETZ 13:53:14 03/10/03 so next month right? like last month? or the next? (n/m) - genic 13:57:06 03/10/03 Been hearing rumors that it was in the works for the Z. Coo! (n/m) - John(Houston) 13:59:41 03/10/03 I didn't know they made one for the 300ZX... - fdaa 14:01:03 03/10/03 ..but I couldn't find an application for 300ZX. >> - Arthur 14:02:35 03/10/03 Sponge's car was the prototype. - ZHOUND 14:21:09 03/10/03 That is great news. Those numbers are very impressive! - Arthur 15:54:45 03/10/03 Is it along the lines of like a Zemulator? Please elaborate (n/m) - dilly yo 14:05:41 03/10/03 in short, a total replacement of your stock ECU. (n/m) - Arthur 14:07:43 03/10/03 What else would you want to modify that the Zem can't?? (n/m) - dilly yo 14:21:22 03/10/03 Here - ZHOUND 14:33:44 03/10/03 Heh, you didn't answer his question. But I will answer it>> - AshsZ (FABio) 15:16:04 03/10/03 Thats what I got from looking at APEXI's site. I guess>> - dilly yo 15:34:56 03/10/03 Zem V.2??? How about V.1 first? (n/m) - TARGETZ 17:46:22 03/10/03 What all can you control with it? (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 15:26:46 03/10/03 RTFM. (n/m) - ZHOUND 17:42:40 03/10/03 How much??? (n/m) - fdaa 14:15:08 03/10/03 Very cool!!! Just tell me how much. (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 14:17:36 03/10/03 Nice, but I bet the Zemulator will be just as good and <$. (n/m) - Brad (StramanTT) 14:17:54 03/10/03 But will the remote look as cool? :D or is it w/ a laptop? (n/m) - -Ever- 14:20:49 03/10/03 Hah, not nearly as cool.. PFC is a great tool though.. - Brad (StramanTT) 14:51:49 03/10/03 Can you tune a Zem without a laptop? (n/m) - ZHOUND 14:53:12 03/10/03 Nope, but I bet a laptop is a helluva lot easier to use - AshsZ (FABio) 15:09:40 03/10/03 Maybe, but when you start totalling things up... >>> - KaZ (jTTfz) VaBch 15:17:27 03/10/03 Hehehe. If you knew about the Zemulator, you'd realize - AshsZ (FABio) 15:25:14 03/10/03 You forgot you gotta buy ConZult too (n/m) - U ZCREAM (Back in Action) 15:34:37 03/10/03 No, You DONT need a Conzult with the Zem. - AshsZ (FABio) 15:40:27 03/10/03 You're welcome (n/m) - 96-2+2TT 15:50:20 03/10/03 Um, wtf? Take a chill pill (n/m) - U ZCREAM (Back in Action) 16:00:46 03/10/03 The PFC can monitor sensors like a techtom or conzult though (n/m) - TARGETZ 17:47:43 03/10/03 It also has a detonation monitor. - ZHOUND 17:56:08 03/10/03 I bought a used laptop on Ebay . So if you can't afford a - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:35:54 03/10/03 Remote commander. - ZHOUND 16:36:08 03/10/03 Apexi has a lot of backing behind them though... - TARGETZ 17:41:47 03/10/03 Yep, I agree.. - Brad (StramanTT) 23:02:31 03/10/03 If you can bet it to the market, you will sell some - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 14:20:30 03/10/03 dammit, bet=get (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 14:21:27 03/10/03 Uh oh, looks like we have a 3-way battle brewing - U ZCREAM (Back in Action) 14:24:38 03/10/03 link SYS is already there (n/m) - joel(PA) 14:48:01 03/10/03 I haven't seen a car running it yet. (n/m) - ZHOUND 14:59:18 03/10/03 ok ok.... but soon.. =P (n/m) - joel(PA) 15:02:34 03/10/03 Someone in the US has a 1996 TT running their race setup - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 16:10:44 03/10/03 Nice #'s. Congrats. (n/m) - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 14:25:13 03/10/03 Thanks!! (n/m) - Spongerider (Now Power FC) 14:46:35 03/10/03 Dyno charts plz. HP/TQ/AF/PSI (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 15:36:15 03/10/03 Wow... I'm guessing that >>> - KaZ (jTTfz) VaBch 15:02:27 03/10/03 yeah, i second that! very nice! (n/m) - joel(PA) 15:04:13 03/10/03 Like I said, I would rather see a dyno sheet of these pulls - AshsZ (FABio) 15:06:22 03/10/03 All in due time I'm sure... (n/m) - KaZ (jTTfz) VaBch 15:12:39 03/10/03 If he is as good as he says he is, I'm sure he has them. - AshsZ (FABio) 15:21:17 03/10/03 His car hasn't left the dyno in months, he has charts - U ZCREAM (Back in Action) 15:37:29 03/10/03 Why are you getting your panties all in a wad? >> - Greg (Dallas) 15:44:41 03/10/03 LOL. Obviously he feels threatened. - ZHOUND 15:55:01 03/10/03 Mildly. Then I realized it uses a handheld controller - AshsZ (FABio) 21:33:36 03/10/03 Things are much clearer to me than they were before. - AshsZ (FABio) 16:02:34 03/10/03 With them being >>> - KaZ (jTTfz) VaBch 15:09:54 03/10/03 Any reason you were only running 11.6psi? Why not 16psi - AshsZ (FABio) 15:32:50 03/10/03 Probably still testing that's why - Playboy 15:49:57 03/10/03 Does this dyno work? JK - SlidewaysZ 15:54:44 03/10/03 Does not work, HP and torque cannot cross twice. (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 16:08:13 03/10/03 This is the real Dyno Chart.period!!! - govaardz(Aruba) 16:14:57 03/10/03 lol (n/m) - Zeus 16:21:35 03/10/03 Hey Ash - -Ever- 16:02:47 03/10/03 To all nonbelievers, I HAVE THE DYNO SHEETS AT HOME - KILLR300ZX 16:33:46 03/10/03 Check email. (n/m) - ZHOUND 17:43:26 03/10/03 Video of the remote commander. - ZHOUND 16:57:31 03/10/03 I'm interest. - JustinZTT-ATL 17:28:57 03/10/03 Very Nice!!! I'm definitely game for this! - glyttrbug 19:03:02 03/10/03 Very nice! I'll be interested to see what that does - degradated 19:55:35 03/10/03 A few questions - TwinTurboPete 01:17:34 03/11/03 Re: A few questions - Spongerider (Now Power FC) 12:55:28 03/11/03
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