Subject	I can SC a Z32 without removing the AC. guarunteed.
Posted by	niXit on February 25, 2003 at 8:08 AM
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In Reply To	You do know that all that has been done already----> posted by Kyle(Houston) on February 25, 2003 at 07:39 AM
Message	but the cost to play is just as expensive as turboing the car. look at ANY supercharger kits for f/b-bodys and they are ballpark $3,000.oo for an efficient SC. then add in all the custom mandrell piping for the Z32. (my estimate = $500.oo for materials,fabrication,welding) then add the custom single core FMIC (my estimate = $700.oo) then add in the custom radiator required for a reverse mount (my estimate = $700-900.oo) then add in the electric fan (my estimate = $150) then add in the fabrication of SC mounts, pulleys, idlers, etc. (my estimate 600.oo) and you are sitting on top of a nice mig stash of "stock TT". obviously if you do the conversion more then 3-5 times, the price will drop 30% or so, as no R&D is required. everyone wants something for nothing. you can't polish a turd. :I am not bashing on the N/A but I am being realistic. I agree 101.2% The #1 Reality Check for Z Enthusiasts = Nixit "mal1ce666: jesus" <-- I know, I'm shocked too!
Follow Ups	calling all n/a's!!!!! - ZenthuZiast 01:03:33 02/25/03 This is the best idea I've heard in a while... - Skee_lo1212 01:09:38 02/25/03 Im so glad that other people can relate... - ZenthuZiast 01:13:28 02/25/03 i wouldnt mind forced induction. cost+reliability are big - Z U N L 01:59:30 02/25/03 your post made me all tingley inside, lol - ZEngineer 01:27:27 02/25/03 buy a TT (n/m) - Spee 13:29:04 02/25/03 shouldn't you be out making a snow-man? (n/m) - ZEngineer 14:14:17 02/25/03 nah, more snow coming in 2 days...I will do it then :) (n/m) - Spee 14:50:16 02/25/03 ^yawn^ (n/m) - Jjzx 01:30:11 02/25/03 2nd that. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 12:44:01 02/25/03 why not get over it and just buy a TT? They have become - NissanRacing98 (OH) 02:28:53 02/25/03 Just Curious, what's the Max HP a NA engine will handle? - ChazZ 03:04:09 02/25/03 The mode of failure will either be the piston or the exhaust - AshsZ (FABio) 08:58:35 02/25/03 TT & NA rods and cranks same? Wow, never knew that. - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 10:57:10 02/25/03 dude...its been in the NA>>TT sticky for a long time (n/m) - aliaZ 11:17:13 02/25/03 Guess I just never caught it. Had a TT only concerned w/me. (n/m) - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 15:42:31 02/25/03 1 think you're overlooking many things - ZEngineer 06:48:46 02/25/03 Thank God, someone here with a brain in his head. - KILLR300ZX 13:20:00 02/25/03 hit the nail on the head...well said Doc. (n/m) - Spee 13:30:19 02/25/03 :) (n/m) - NissanRacing98 (OH) 13:50:34 02/25/03 Re: calling all n/a's!!!!! - SactoTodd 02:55:45 02/25/03 OBVOIUSLY, you haven't researched the conversion. - ZenthuZiast 09:51:08 02/25/03 dude, sense when do ppl cut and splice radiators? - Halo Z 10:17:47 02/25/03 Hahahaha - ZenthuZiast 14:36:03 02/25/03 your worse than a virgin going to prom thinking - Halo Z 15:31:35 02/25/03 Re: OBVIOUSLY, I'd use TT parts. - SactoTodd 10:23:39 02/25/03 you're an idiot (n/m) - Spee 13:33:38 02/25/03 OBVIOUSLY, you dont know what you are talking about - Grendelrt(VA) 14:51:02 02/25/03 what the hell... - Chris-TTZ 03:05:37 02/25/03 what "bottom end" differences are you refering to? (n/m) - Z1 Motorsports 09:00:46 02/25/03 suppose i should have said short block components. - Chris-TTZ 11:49:36 02/25/03 agreed. - ZenthuZiast 14:31:35 02/25/03 Re: agreed. - Chris-TTZ 03:26:48 02/26/03 I'm in. Time to play around with my SMT5 (n/m) - Keepsake 04:06:24 02/25/03 I am down. (n/m) - Gizmo600R 07:15:26 02/25/03 Yes, but ho wlong is teh NA engine gonna last under so - George(boostsolutionsinc.net) 07:24:08 02/25/03 George, would it be correct to say that - ZEngineer 07:37:56 02/25/03 We made 340RWHP at 11psi. I know of no TT making those - AshsZ (FABio) 08:00:39 02/25/03 Good question. We'll have to see >>> - AshsZ (FABio) 07:56:05 02/25/03 Just as long as your TT>>> - Z1 Motorsports 08:19:58 02/25/03 OPEN your mind. Think OUTSIDE of the box. - niXit 08:27:00 02/25/03 Ditto, I talked to my machinest/engine builder the other - Mal1ce 10:35:03 02/25/03 Shh, let the "low compression is best" idea remain - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 12:24:46 02/25/03 What I am saying is that putting the lower compression - George(boostsolutionsinc.net) 11:50:00 02/25/03 28 dyno pulls in 2 hrs & 21 track runs. Speaks for itself (n/m) - Z1 Motorsports 12:02:42 02/25/03 Itb is all about max cylinder pressure, but you are 100% - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 12:06:07 02/25/03 This is a daily driver and changing pistons >>> - Z1 Motorsports 12:18:55 02/25/03 Looks like I went the wrong route. It is not that late >>> - George(boostsolutionsinc.net) 11:58:26 02/25/03 Drag cars run 12:1 with 30 psi of boost on gasoline - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 12:09:19 02/25/03 You do know that all that has been done already----> - Kyle(Houston) 07:39:23 02/25/03 Tell you what, rather than just *talk* about it Kyle, - AshsZ (FABio) 07:59:07 02/25/03 Actually....that is *exactly* why I have not done it---> - Kyle(Houston) 08:04:57 02/25/03 I can SC a Z32 without removing the AC. guarunteed. - niXit 08:08:37 02/25/03 We have thought about that also---> - Kyle(Houston) 08:39:10 02/25/03 i was more concerned about engine flex/motor-mount torque. - niXit 09:23:16 02/25/03 Is that THAT much more than the TT conversion? - ZenthuZiast 13:51:02 02/25/03 and a much weaker top end - Spee 01:07:03 02/26/03 ugh (n/m) - Guapo 08:13:56 02/25/03 The desire is there but the cash isn't. Why do you think... - JRH(KY) 08:57:47 02/25/03 Not always so..... - DutchZX 09:14:34 02/25/03 Never is an impossible term. Anything is possible. - AshsZ (FABio) 09:41:02 02/25/03 99.9% of these NA conversion wannabes aren't able to - JRH(KY) 10:16:53 02/25/03 We'll see what happens - I'm not forming any presumptions - AshsZ (FABio) 10:22:43 02/25/03 there will always be someone to criticize and put you down - ZEngineer 10:33:01 02/25/03 So true. =) (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 11:42:41 02/25/03 soo true! - ZenthuZiast 14:01:43 02/25/03 Then bookmark this. I'll be right. The Z32's lifespan - JRH(KY) 10:40:27 02/25/03 That is the bottom line from a business perspective - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 12:04:00 02/25/03 Sounds good. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 13:16:31 02/25/03 100% agree. and only 1% have the $$$ to do it. (n/m) - niXit 10:35:22 02/25/03 it's not only about money, it's priorities & availability (n/m) - ZEngineer 10:14:31 02/25/03 "Most of us dream of a conversion to TT," lol... - drewiiiwerd 09:03:15 02/25/03 where are you going to put a supercharger? - fairladyz90999 09:10:20 02/25/03 custom hood, custom plenum - fast and furious Charger style. - AshsZ (FABio) 09:48:17 02/25/03 sold... sign ME up! - rave 09:17:59 02/25/03 mindless follower (n/m) - Spee 13:46:33 02/25/03 More like a hopeful with faith. (n/m) - ZenthuZiast 13:53:23 02/25/03 excuse me? (n/m) - rave 14:35:10 02/25/03 did you fart? I said MINDLESS FOLLOWER. - Spee 14:49:35 02/25/03 and so if you drive a TT your NOT a mindless follower? (n/m) - rave 23:38:45 02/25/03 how the hell did you draw THAT conclusion? (n/m) - Spee 01:03:52 02/26/03 you figure it out :oP (n/m) - rave 09:23:22 02/26/03 im down if i can save up the $$$$ (n/m) - Japocalipse 09:33:21 02/25/03 Very Interested & curious to see how the NA handles boost - DarkZader 09:50:43 02/25/03 We made 340RWHP at 11psi on the NA engine. Did you see - AshsZ (FABio) 09:56:34 02/25/03 Re: I didn't see the post but i got some Questions? - DarkZader 12:00:51 02/25/03 its not that refined yet. - ZenthuZiast 13:33:01 02/25/03 if i wanted a TT i would have got one. (n/m) - Halo Z 10:06:46 02/25/03 If someone wants a SC'd Z, they can get one too. - AshsZ (FABio) 10:17:56 02/25/03 ADMIN: Do we HAVE to put up with this kind of CRAP? - AshsZ (FABio) 11:01:47 02/25/03 so would all your posts calling ppl ASS CLOWNS. (n/m) - Halo Z 11:04:35 02/25/03 So are you saying that because I called someone an assclown - AshsZ (FABio) 11:20:44 02/25/03 Nice logic. Too bad it's an assclowny kind of statement. - Greg (Dallas) 11:29:43 02/25/03 every thing changes when it envolves you right ash? (n/m) - Halo Z 11:37:34 02/25/03 When the involvement shifts from you to me, I would assume - AshsZ (FABio) 11:45:56 02/25/03 "I would assume" well explains the WHOLE THING RIGHT THERE. (n/m) - Halo Z 11:53:57 02/25/03 Yup. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 13:14:24 02/25/03 Like you calling people assclowns. (n/m) - Greg (Dallas) 11:09:12 02/25/03 bahahaha (n/m) - Tennyson (ATL) 11:10:21 02/25/03 Shall I say it more politically correct? LOL - AshsZ (FABio) 11:15:49 02/25/03 No, you're just being you >> - Greg (Dallas) 11:23:05 02/25/03 ROFL @ "Just stop shooting yourself in the dick" (n/m) - Atti2de 12:19:20 02/25/03 how does it feel to have to play the "daddy" role here? =) (n/m) - ZEngineer 12:39:56 02/25/03 Ok. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 13:17:36 02/25/03 I made that same point and you said you should delete it. - ZenthuZiast 13:29:54 02/25/03 What kind of SC? Eaton, Moss, Wipple, etc? - Escort Z 10:39:54 02/25/03 what kind would you like??? - ZenthuZiast 10:44:41 02/25/03 exhaust driven would be fine, thanks. (n/m) - SactoTodd 11:25:59 02/25/03 Dont you like power throughout your powerband? (n/m) - ZenthuZiast 13:27:32 02/25/03 I like efficient power, how about you? (n/m) - Spee 13:51:37 02/25/03 it could be overcome - ZenthuZiast 13:56:30 02/25/03 welcome newbie... couple short things... - niXit 11:31:52 02/25/03 yes, you understand! - ZenthuZiast 13:26:47 02/25/03 this entire thread, and we learn you are STONED. - niXit 14:46:28 02/25/03 Forced induction on a VG30DE. Not sure on the charger - - AshsZ (FABio) 11:12:12 02/25/03 Vortech S trim.... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 11:19:00 02/25/03 Is that a centrifugal or roots type? (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 11:45:02 02/25/03 I "believe" that all Vortech SCs are centrifugal - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 12:01:50 02/25/03 lmao. =) (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 12:55:55 02/25/03 I'm open to new ideas like the next guy. - Escort Z 14:58:02 02/25/03 For those of you out there who doubt, whine, bitch, and moan - ZenthuZiast 10:41:29 02/25/03 You know... now you're getting irritating ... - Greg (Dallas) 11:28:06 02/25/03 at least you made a valid point - ZenthuZiast 13:21:50 02/25/03 I am more then willing to help. I agree it needs 2 be done - niXit 11:41:42 02/25/03 JWT ECU on the way!? :) - ZBlacktt 13:34:50 02/25/03 Spare us the drama and cut the crap William Wallace. - Spee 14:07:01 02/25/03 Re: Spare us the drama and cut the crap William Wallace. - ZenthuZiast 14:16:54 02/25/03 Re: Re: Spare us the drama and cut the crap William Wallace. - Spee 14:42:58 02/25/03 Re: Re: Re: Spare us the drama and cut the crap William Wallace. - ZenthuZiast 14:59:27 02/25/03 Re: Re: Re: Re: Spare us the drama and cut the crap William Wallace. - Spee 16:28:47 02/25/03 LOL, another logical thinker.......lol ;)~ (n/m) - ZBlacktt 14:20:21 02/25/03 Interested depending on cost... - DrChoda 10:46:24 02/25/03 READ the link to Z1's/AshsZ post and see what "just an N/A" - ZenthuZiast 10:59:01 02/25/03 I understand some of the fundamentals.... - DrChoda 13:47:24 02/25/03 A good S/C setup will only add ~75-100 FWHP----> - Kyle(Houston) 11:22:32 02/25/03 100% agree. it comes down to money. and a LOT of it. (n/m) - niXit 11:34:49 02/25/03 I like the projects :) - ZBlacktt 13:23:04 02/25/03 Thanks, I appreciate the support! (n/m) - ZenthuZiast 13:35:07 02/25/03 To get 500rwhp, your still going to need a lot of money and - ZBlacktt 13:51:15 02/25/03 finally, someone who wants to dance! - ZenthuZiast 13:59:58 02/25/03 Stg V/Stg VI TT's run 11 sec's and yes stock turbo's - ZBlacktt 14:11:09 02/25/03 sweet. - ZenthuZiast 14:20:31 02/25/03 Re: Stg V/Stg VI TT's run 11 sec's and yes stock turbo's (n/m) - ZenthuZiast 14:21:55 02/25/03 Amen Bro! :o) (n/m) - rave 23:40:54 02/25/03 LMAO! That was funny, thanks. - Spee 13:27:56 02/25/03 Sign me up!! oh wait nevermind, i own a TT!!!! =P (n/m) - Ted(Snowflake Customs) 16:36:50 02/25/03 ohhhhhhh funny NOT! (n/m) - rave 09:25:25 02/26/03
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