is putting down 189HP with his NA and the stock program.
He's thinking that if your car made 190HP with the JWT program, would that mean he will only see 1HP more with the upgrade? I'm sure he would see more than that. But he also has not elaborated any on what kind of portwork exactly was done, what his base timing is set to and has he done any A/F tuning with the stock program. There are a lot of things that can account for his horsepower being where it is which he is not showing. What I would like to see him do is run his car with the JWT program and then with my program. You and I both know what the results will be - some people you can't even ram it down their throats though.. Almost,.... unhuman stubborness.