Subject	A dyno is very different then open road....
Posted by	Kyle(Houston) on January 08, 2003 at 9:09 PM
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In Reply To	Talked to Clark Steppler ( who is not clueless) and posted by MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) on January 08, 2003 at 01:22 PM
Message	"To say that timing is different on dyno versus the road is inaccurate. The only thing dyno will do is load the engine differently" Do you actually think that a simple fan in front of the car on the dyno can accurately reproduce the air flow and load at 80 Mph+ ??? Kyle "Grumpy Bear" Puckett ICQ #727815
Follow Ups	Ignition timing advance benefits. Going from 15 to 17 - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 11:39:32 01/08/03 <- TECH - Timing Tweak (n/m) - my91z 11:44:58 01/08/03 Tech timing tweak lacks a lot of information - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 13:45:29 01/08/03 Personally I wouldn't mess with the timing without... - Funky (NWZ) 11:46:36 01/08/03 Yep, some race gas and he can run 17 with no problem - SeedyROM 11:48:05 01/08/03 Yea, racegas can help with knocking... - Funky (NWZ) 11:53:17 01/08/03 Heh, people dont know this but you can run a stock program - AshsZ (FABio) 11:57:46 01/08/03 yes, I believe Mike (La Canada) is running 17-19psi w/stock - Funky (NWZ) 12:03:55 01/08/03 Yep. (n/m) - SeedyROM 12:09:18 01/08/03 specific gravity - Marshall 14:09:08 01/08/03 Torque goes up with fuel delivery. At least to a certain - AshsZ (FABio) 15:47:09 01/08/03 yeah (check your email) - Marshall 16:11:36 01/08/03 Heh, you can go MUCH further than that... :) - AshsZ (FABio) 11:55:27 01/08/03 Sorry, that's Greg's role :) - SeedyROM 12:17:48 01/08/03 I won't blast you - Marshall 15:07:43 01/08/03 I agree with you on many of those points - I take beatings - AshsZ (FABio) 15:40:32 01/08/03 Hell I run 20 deg BTDC on 93 octane with no problem in summr (n/m) - SUPRMANZ 13:54:52 01/08/03 Try that in a Stage III TT though ;) - SeedyROM 14:27:23 01/08/03 he has an NA. (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 14:37:02 01/08/03 I know. He has a Stage III NA, I'm saying he can't do that - SeedyROM 14:46:11 01/08/03 You are right, I read "stage III" missed the TT. (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 14:51:44 01/08/03 It does - I've tested it - Flycaz's dyno charts. >>> - AshsZ (FABio) 11:49:26 01/08/03 After my dyno run this past weekend, we check timing - BigRob 12:26:19 01/08/03 JWT race gas program and pump gas programs just - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:43:16 01/08/03 I made an increase of 15rwhp going from 13 to 16 BTDC - colocomp 12:13:21 01/08/03 But I bet it improved a large chunk of the powerband - SeedyROM 12:14:32 01/08/03 I will try and find the graphs and post. (n/m) - colocomp 12:15:36 01/08/03 That'd be cool. 13 to 16 is a healthy jump. (n/m) - SeedyROM 12:18:10 01/08/03 I found the graphs but they did not have the tourqe - colocomp 12:37:11 01/08/03 Re: I found the graphs but they did not have the tourqe - BigRob 13:05:56 01/08/03 The dyno sheets I have were from a private dyno - colocomp 13:13:26 01/08/03 Dyno in your garage? Cool :-))) When can we all come over? - BigRob 13:18:15 01/08/03 I think 300.00 ish?, we need to talk Tim into buying it. (n/m) - colocomp 13:22:26 01/08/03 Re: I think 300.00 ish?, we need to talk Tim into buying it. - BigRob 13:24:27 01/08/03 Nothing on ebay. Damn. (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 14:04:55 01/08/03 Base timing at idle should be 15degrees, I got 19 degrees - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:32:39 01/08/03 Unfortunately I did not have a Techcom to check a WOT (n/m) - colocomp 12:35:50 01/08/03 careful here. there are many different things happening... - niXit 12:39:20 01/08/03 The timing map comes off of the MAS voltage readings - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:45:39 01/08/03 :sigh: mmm... okay. - niXit 12:48:02 01/08/03 Talked to Clark Steppler ( who is not clueless) and - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 13:22:53 01/08/03 Well, if he thinks TPS is involved, he IS mistaken. - AshsZ (FABio) 15:53:51 01/08/03 So the igntion map is based on MAFS voltage and what else? - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 16:41:47 01/08/03 RPM.. (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 21:03:15 01/08/03 a/f is different on dyno and road, why wouldnt timing be? (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 17:53:20 01/08/03 How do you know it is different? Do you have 02 - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:26:08 01/08/03 A dyno is very different then open road.... - Kyle(Houston) 21:09:31 01/08/03 add about .4 to your a/f...that is what it will be on the - Chris(NJ) 00:24:34 01/09/03 We *always* had to fine tune at the track----> - Kyle(Houston) 07:04:51 01/09/03 oops. sorry, my post was meant for mike. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 10:18:28 01/09/03 "Simple question"? You are just "ignant" Ash can you - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 13:33:20 01/08/03 Yup, after much thought, I've decided: You are clueless. (n/m) - niXit 13:00:28 01/08/03 lol (n/m) - colocomp 13:20:49 01/08/03 guess you are smarter than me when it comes to modding Z's : (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 13:53:01 01/08/03 My timing was always 15 btdc when WOT, and I have never - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 14:02:53 01/08/03 You guys are confusing base timing and ACUTAL timing >>> - AshsZ (FABio) 16:10:59 01/08/03 I was referring to timing at WOT which is not base or stati (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:03:26 01/08/03 Re: Ignition timing advance benefits. Going from 15 to 17 - sparkie 13:08:09 01/08/03 Re: Ignition timing advance benefits. Going from 15 to 17 - au7385 15:25:35 01/08/03
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