:long time. CF is not stupid its good material for making light weight parts. The problem with the market place is that people use for show and not for what it suppose to be used for. :Ever pick up CF Door? What about a CF fender? What about a carbon fiber intake box. I have and all I can say is OMG I want them. But then again I remember I am not a racing team with a crazy budget and can't afford it :-) :