Chris (Miami) and Tom B were the smartest guys when it came to Z's. And Cruzes1 has not been a real active member for a long time. At one time, HE was the most popular guy in Chicago. ;-) He still has his beautiful convertible Z, but may be selling it once it gets out of storage. He told me he has a tentative buyer. It actually saddens me because his Z is one of my personal favorites and Erwin is such a great guy.