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I guess we are basically talking about the typical stage IV we discuss here: stage 1 - intake stage 2 - exhaust stage 3 - ecu (13 psi) stage 4 - intercoolers I've driven a Viper and several Stage 4 Z's. You can feel huge difference in pull. You will need more than the 410 HP that most stage 4's average to beat a 450+ HP Viper. click here for the basic stats on Vipers and compare them with the basic stage 4 Z stats. I love the Z just as much as everyone else, but real world numbers dont lie.

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93 A'PEXi RX7 TT Stage VIII+ 341 rwhp @ 14 psi click on the pic or visit my website
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