Subject	I don't buy that point.
Posted by	Marshall on August 27, 2002 at 8:34 PM
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In Reply To	you are overlooking several points posted by AntiHero[seatbelts rock] on August 27, 2002 at 08:15 PM
Message	I've tested out my brakes plenty of times and the brakes lock up almost instantly when you jam on them hard enough. I don't think that they are so hard to slow down that the stock brakes take an appreciable amount of time to slow them down. When you compare the force of stopping the entire car compared to stopping just the mass of the rotating wheel, the wheel isn't much by comparison. Read my other post on this subject: [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=656437 ] In that article from Porsche racing enthusiasts, they confirm what I am saying and quote a book by a physicist/racer. If you want to argue physics with physicist Brian Beckman, who wrote a book titled "The Physics of Racing", then be my guest. But I have a feeling that a physicist who is into racing has a much better idea o the forces involved than TT.net members do.
Follow Ups	Stoptech brake upgrade testing complete .... - Luke@tirerack 11:28:40 08/27/02 any repeated stop data, like C&D did with the WRX? (n/m) - SactoTodd 11:35:44 08/27/02 yes but, I do not have all of the data yet ... - Luke@tirerack 11:48:35 08/27/02 excellent! thanks Luke. (n/m) - SactoTodd 11:52:06 08/27/02 Nice. :) I'm with Todd tho, gotta beat them repeatedly. >>> - AshsZ (Fab Whore, Ph.D) 11:39:59 08/27/02 332mm floating 2-piece rotors and Stoptech Calipers - Luke@tirerack 11:50:13 08/27/02 Any projected date of sale? (n/m) - RezidentEvil 12:03:19 08/27/02 a couple of weeks ... (n/m) - Luke@tirerack 12:20:41 08/27/02 Here's a question... - John(Houston) 12:04:32 08/27/02 yes it will (n/m) - Luke@tirerack 12:20:07 08/27/02 Excellent! (n/m) - John(Houston) 12:29:09 08/27/02 Yep, except the StopTech caliper is twice as rigid :) (n/m) - SeedyRom (TT Huntin) 13:37:44 08/27/02 But unfortunately not as pretty... IMO, that is... - John(Houston) 13:51:42 08/27/02 Function > Form ;) And actually they look about the same. - SeedyRom (TT Huntin) 13:58:17 08/27/02 Lettering is pretty. :) - John(Houston) 14:23:31 08/27/02 Nice specs. :) What's the price of this setup? (n/m) - AshsZ (Fab Whore, Ph.D) 12:07:18 08/27/02 I would guess $1500+ (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 12:26:51 08/27/02 It'll be a little more than that but you get A LOT... - SeedyRom (TT Huntin) 13:39:27 08/27/02 I was being conservative, (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 13:48:51 08/27/02 Just a hair ;) - SeedyRom (TT Huntin) 13:56:28 08/27/02 I actually did not want to post $2000 and have ASH - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 14:31:15 08/27/02 $2000 for calipers, rotors, etc etc isn't bad... >>> - AshsZ (Fab Whore, Ph.D) 14:36:39 08/27/02 BTW: I sent some business your way >>> - AshsZ (Fab Whore, Ph.D) 14:41:08 08/27/02 It is because we both believe strongly in what we say. - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 16:09:41 08/27/02 Now you've got me curious. I'll have to test my $200 specls - AshsZ (Fab Whore, Ph.D) 14:08:00 08/27/02 That's what they did. The StopTech testing is DETAILED - SeedyRom (TT Huntin) 13:36:59 08/27/02 Excellent. I look forward to some more quantitative info. (n/m) - AshsZ (Fab Whore, Ph.D) 14:38:44 08/27/02 you have mail. (n/m) - Chris-TTZ 11:42:35 08/27/02 Yep ... lots of it and it just keeps coming ... - Luke@tirerack 11:51:09 08/27/02 guess there will be no kit that will fit under 16"s? (n/m) - FLY 1 (Dallaz) 13:00:08 08/27/02 even the skyline upgrade barley fits under stocks. - AntiHero[seatbelts rock] 13:22:38 08/27/02 R32 calipers/rotors fits fine and same in diameter but lil - FLY 1 (Dallaz) 13:38:19 08/27/02 no they dont - AntiHero[seatbelts rock] 13:51:41 08/27/02 Yes they do. - SpdDemon13 (Baltimore) 16:05:48 08/27/02 uhh... you just agreed with me - AntiHero[seatbelts rock] 20:08:05 08/27/02 you are missing my point - FLY 1 (Dallaz) 21:40:15 08/27/02 No I didn't. - SpdDemon13 (Baltimore) 22:28:29 08/27/02 R32 calipers/rotors fits fine and same in diameter but lil - FLY 1 (Dallaz) 13:42:33 08/27/02 update !!! - Luke@tirerack 13:26:47 08/27/02 That data doesn't sound right to me. - Marshall 14:41:05 08/27/02 Re: That data doesn't sound right to me. - sparkie 15:07:54 08/27/02 You're getting caught up in the details. - Marshall 15:34:38 08/27/02 The difference between stock brakes and upgraded brakes is - PLEAZURE in CA (SD) 16:53:04 08/27/02 You're *almost* right.... - Marshall 20:15:20 08/27/02 Re: That data doesn't sound right to me. - Luke@tirerack 15:32:32 08/27/02 Did you have the ABS kick in each time? - Marshall 15:48:25 08/27/02 you are overlooking several points - AntiHero[seatbelts rock] 20:15:24 08/27/02 I don't buy that point. - Marshall 20:34:09 08/27/02 Re: That data doesn't sound right to me. - CanAmBob 23:00:04 08/27/02 You've got mail! (n/m) - Jackie Chan (Boosted) 15:08:28 08/27/02
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