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: Just wanted you all to be aware of something that happened to me today regarding my Z. : I found out that I - and potential buyers of my Z that was advertised in the classifieds here - have been scammed by TwinTurbo.NET user "logik", and that I wound up selling the car to the logik's friend this morning. : I had posted a 91TT 300XZ for sale, with pictures, on TwinTurbo.net on 8/15 and 8/17 (user dcohen). Prior to that, I had a local buyer Vinny look at it from an ad I placed in the local paper, in Pittsburgh where I and the car live. Vinny, who who really wanted the car, originally couldn't come up with the money. : Coincidentally, when Vinny visited, Vinny had mentioned to me that he has a friend who runs the web site "TwinTurbo.org" in Pittsburgh. You'll understand the importance of this later. : I had a lot of interest from TwinTurbo.net users in my Z, which is exactly as was advertised - a 1991 TT with less tahn 46K miles for $11,200 (book value). I also included a link to over 30 high resolution digital photos. These buyers will tell you that I was prompt and responsive to their questions and requests. : I found out today from one of my buyers that “someone” managed to get my "for sale" post removed from the Classifieds through the member voting process. I also found out from a potential buyer that a member of twinturbo.net, "logik@twinturbo.org", had posted false and misleading comments about my car to discourage other buyers from bidding on my car. : Apparently, "logik" had initiated a thread discrediting my ad, saying he saw the car, and that "it was in horrible condition, the photos are 10 years old, and that black smoke was pouring out of the exhaust". I saw this thread and turned white with horror that someone would do something like this. : Obviously, "logik@twinturbo.org" is in fact the friend of the Pittsburgh buyer, Vinny. I visited the http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=646928 : The actual thread initiated by logik, with the false negative comments, has already been deleted by logik, as he now knows I am on to him, but here is the thread ID anyway so maybe you can look it up in archives: http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=645778
: From my cache, I did manage to get a PDF snapshot of the thread, which shows that "logik" initiated a "don't bother with dcohen TTZ" thread, unsolicited, in TwinTurbo.net.
: Because my TwinTurbo.net buyers got nervous and either slowed down or backed off, and I didn't know I was scammed at the time, I wound up selling the car to Vinny this morning, logik's friend, at a lower price. : I was scammed, and I am mad. The sad part is, in addition to me selling at a lower price than I could have got, other decent TwinTurbo.net members were deprived of the opportunity to get a great TT. : There's not much I can do at this point, the car is sold to scammer logik's friend Vinny (“Poom”) and the title is transfered. I just want you all to know that this kind of thing happens, and that this "logik" has done something in violation of the spirit of this great web site. Please be careful when reviewing discussions or comments from people about people’s cars – positive or negative – and go see the car yourself before you buy. : Dan
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16:43:33 08/20/02
