I heard that gives you real inaccurate HP numbers as a decent percentage more is lost in AWD form........my point was George had said 400rwhp and I think his buddy may have been exaggerating a bit, I had a 97 turbo and it took quite a bit to come close to that HP to the ground, thats 460-480 at the crank depending on what driveline percentage you are loosing. Any way I was just curious how he knew he had 400 hp to the ground......as it takes a bit of mods to get a Z to that rating, its not a 4cyl with 210 hp stock. Anyway thanks for the reply.....hope that clears things up a bit on my end.