Subject	If you retard the timing, you are losing horsepower...
Posted by	Only1Z on June 19, 2002 at 6:34 PM
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In Reply To	The coolest "key" is stock ECU. posted by Brad (JSpecZ32) on June 19, 2002 at 04:06 PM
Message	So it will offset the increase in boost somewhat. I don't like how people keep talking about, "oh just retard the timing!" As I remember, he was running only 8 degrees of timing when he put down around 380 with 19 psi of boost. Well, if he was running 15 degrees, there's now way he could run 19 psi and not get detonation some of the time (can't always hear it)...unless he had an AFC. Let's also remember, this does not happen for the majority of Z's. So advising people to do it is not a smart thing. I hope this makes sense because there are very dumb things being said about this whole matter.
Follow Ups	Hahaha. These people are cracking me up. - ZHOUND 12:22:06 06/19/02 You don't know about the BJCE?!? - JRH(KY) 12:30:01 06/19/02 It's located next to the flux capacitor. Check FAQ, Duh!!! (n/m) - BigTDogg 13:02:53 06/19/02 that's some good stuff, gotta love rookies>>> - Sweet Z(UTAH) 12:34:18 06/19/02 LOL. Same thread on Supraforums. I'm a lurker over there. :) (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 13:00:00 06/19/02 Pretty dissapointing to see something like that :-(. (n/m) - ZHOUND 13:08:02 06/19/02 What's dissapointing? That I'm a lurker? :-) (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 13:13:44 06/19/02 No, that people are clueless when it comes to Z potential. (n/m) - SeedyRom 14:16:40 06/19/02 How did he run a 12.1 with a stock TT? - ajaffer 13:24:45 06/19/02 Profec B Boost controller, Greddy IC's, DP's, TP's, Slicks (n/m) - MugenRacer 13:35:38 06/19/02 To many parts to be TECHNICALLY stock lol (n/m) - RT 13:49:05 06/19/02 Stock ECU would be better way to say it. (n/m) - MugenRacer 13:50:47 06/19/02 The key is "stock turbos." (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 13:53:29 06/19/02 ...and stock injectors. (n/m) - ZHOUND 14:28:32 06/19/02 yeah and stage three has those but not considered stock (n/m) - RT 14:38:07 06/19/02 The coolest "key" is stock ECU. - Brad (JSpecZ32) 16:06:51 06/19/02 Totally. - ZHOUND 16:28:54 06/19/02 If you retard the timing, you are losing horsepower... - Only1Z 18:34:59 06/19/02 He doesn't still run 8 degree timing. - ZHOUND 19:58:39 06/19/02 Followup question.. - Brad (JSpecZ32) 21:08:22 06/19/02 First off, I fully agree that you DON'T need injectors on - Only1Z 21:29:09 06/19/02 Re: First off, I fully agree that you DON'T need injectors o - ZHOUND 21:43:23 06/19/02 LOL...I fully agree with you there - Only1Z 22:01:01 06/19/02 Wolf retards the timing with his ECU, that's just one route. - Brad (JSpecZ32) 21:04:00 06/19/02 I'm not disagreeing with you totally... - Only1Z 21:23:32 06/19/02 Re: Wolf retards the timing with his ECU, that's just one ro - ZHOUND 21:28:34 06/19/02 So I guess the key difference is.. - Brad (JSpecZ32) 21:45:49 06/19/02 Also consider that 100 octane is going to be well over - Only1Z 22:06:40 06/19/02 Re: So I guess the key difference is.. - ZHOUND 00:29:11 06/20/02 Actually I didn't know he had Greddy IC's. (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 13:53:02 06/19/02 Thats what his profile says. :) (n/m) - MugenRacer 14:01:39 06/19/02 Had those for a while now. Prolly since 2000 (n/m) - Mike (La Canada) 14:44:26 06/19/02 Those are the IC's I want too. (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 06:16:24 06/20/02 Re: Those are the IC's I want too. - ZHOUND 11:48:39 06/20/02 I think the Stillen ones are a bit larger, not sure though. (n/m) - MugenRacer 13:16:51 06/20/02 Basic mods. And some driving. (n/m) - ZHOUND 14:27:59 06/19/02 Just some driving.....! (n/m) - Seb 00:33:53 06/20/02 What have I been missing - Mike (La Canada) 14:46:31 06/19/02
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