as one of my guests who's here for the Z convention just said "shit...the whole internet is fucking stupid i wouldn't worry about him" good advice...but..the issues you're so desperately seaking to have a big conversation on have been beaten around a lot. This is why nobody else is chiming in. There's nothing new to talk about...it's all out there. Rod bearings, weak cooling systems, shitty manifolds, critical electronics that crap out. No, I'm no mind reader that's why I asked you a legitimate question about who you were referring to. More than 2 austin Z people have doubted me and slammed me in the past only to have it slammed back in their face hard. This is why I asked before I made an assumption (did that once too and it sucked). If that wasn't a reference to anybody in particular say "no rich...you're a paranoid freak" and that's that. As for why I don't want to build a 650rwhp car, come to the shop Tuesday morning and I'll show you a few examples of why that's not a goal and then we'll also talk about road racing and how it's more entertaining to me than going 190mph down 183 while trying to outrun a Supra. I'm also serious about my plans to eventually build a RB25 powered Z31 and come out to school everyone in Austin....my time frame on that is 5 years so I'm in no rush. Getting my Z32TT to mint condition and building it to a comfortable yet track worthy weekend car is more of a priority as is getting a E36 M3. I don't feel compelled to have that much power at the moment...you have the bug...I don't. I've already been busted for 125+ once and I don't really want to push my luck. : ) I really think you're blowing my "attitude" way out of proportion. Take my opinion of the Z's motor being not the world's greatest and decide for yourself that it is my opinion and you don't have to agree with it. When you ask me why I think that and I reiterate what's been here for years then that's the answer I have for you. There's not many other magical items out there that haven't been found yet. Take the fact that 650rwhp will impress me if it runs reliably for what it is....An appreciation of what I think is a good goal. As I've said already, if you surpass that goal then I'll be even happier for you. Kyle says he can build it to last and I hope it does, I'm not joking. There's no "diss" "slam", taunt, tongue-in-cheek bs or anything in that. Also, the whole "rich doesn't think a VG can run 700rwhp reliably" is simple minded. There are a number of engines that can't (2JZ included...but I think it's a little better). Just so you know, most informed people will agree that horsepower levels in that area are simply going to be more prone to cause catastrophic failures. When I say reliable I'm talking, drive it to/from work on 110 degree days for years without having to do any serious work. I'm literally tired (too much celebrating) and am tired of this conversation as a whole. I bear you no ill will and wish you well and I'm going to extend a hand of friend- ship and ask that we begin this conversation again and make sure there are no assumptions or preconceived notions. Maybe at some point we can sit down over a drink and we can talk about motors, turbos, and I'll explain my twisted logic that keeps confusing people.
rich '91 300ZXTT Stage 4+
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