Subject	willing to bet CZP has more market presence than MSP
Posted by	LJZTT on February 21, 2018 at 10:23 AM
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In Reply To	Or Coz is just screwing people again..... posted by The Hawk on February 21, 2018 at 09:23 AM
Message	especially given that MSP hasnt produced anything for years now. Doesnt make a lot of sense to reproduce a lesser known brand's part and then put that lesser known brand on it. The vast majority of CZP's customers do not share the same image/perspective of CZP as some TTnet'ers....much less are even aware of MSP. "I torch my soul to show the world that I am pure deep inside my heart....No more lies." --William Patrick Corgan
Follow Ups	Mike Smith MSP TT Manifolds, back in production?????? - BooZtid 15:48:05 02/20/18 It could likely be that the foundry/Mike were willing to - MixManMash 15:52:32 02/20/18 Damn...should've invested in a garage full of MSP manifolds - ZXoltan 15:55:07 02/20/18 Re: Damn...should've invested in a garage full of MSP manifolds - BooZtid 19:42:46 02/20/18 Not surprised. From my cold, dead hands... (n/m) - ForceFedTT (FL) 23:50:34 02/20/18 I figured the market would've been flooded w MSP's - ZXoltan 16:13:55 02/22/18 Loads of installation/fitment issues with the Ashspec. (n/m) - MixManMash 06:26:39 02/23/18 You got a link? I've spoke with people not - nonstopna (SoCal) 13:57:04 02/23/18 Re: You got a link? I've spoke with people not - Bad Fish 14:46:08 02/23/18 Well, he likely stopped making them partially due to the... - Nate (NoVA) 19:53:30 02/20/18 that, and he hand inspects and finishes each set - vorpalZ 19:57:07 02/20/18 ^ this (n/m) - ForceFedTT (FL) 23:51:41 02/20/18 Yeah I asked him about them - BlackholeZ 00:04:38 02/21/18 Not possible. Even when I bought my 2 sets back in 2011... - ForceFedTT (FL) 23:49:46 02/20/18 Yea bummer I should've bought a set. (n/m) - ZXRider 13:20:30 02/21/18 Those that got the liquidation price of $650 should feel - CarolinaZ_TT 16:01:54 02/20/18 Re: Those that got the liquidation price of $650 should feel - Master_Blaster 20:34:13 02/21/18 That might have been part of the last run Mike was doing. (n/m) - CameronSF 17:19:33 02/20/18 If he can get that price out of them, I bet he'll continue (n/m) - Boostjuice 18:08:49 02/20/18 somehow I dont think MS is making that markup (n/m) - vorpalZ 19:54:07 02/20/18 Correct (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 08:38:32 02/21/18 I’d be suspicious.... - ConVerTT 23:16:25 02/20/18 Right. Could be another 300 Degree knockoff situation :-/ (n/m) - ForceFedTT (FL) 23:53:10 02/20/18 I would hope that important lessons were learned - ZXoltan 08:18:41 02/21/18 yes...but that isn’t what I meant ... - ConVerTT 12:57:24 02/21/18 Re: I’d be suspicious.... - BooZtid 20:34:28 02/21/18 Or Coz is just screwing people again..... - The Hawk 09:23:18 02/21/18 willing to bet CZP has more market presence than MSP - LJZTT 10:23:49 02/21/18 They're already selling AVS(?) Manifolds... - Barry (NJ) 12:04:22 02/21/18 If you superimpose the pictures - ZXRider 13:19:37 02/21/18 That's because they're the same picture, the AMS is either - compirate 14:09:19 02/21/18 Lol!! same product! logo ground off! hahahhaaha (n/m) - ForceFedTT (FL) 23:21:48 02/21/18 You honestly think they ground off the logo in those pics? - compirate 23:38:02 02/21/18 Filter-> Render -> Weld & Grind -> Grind (n/m) - vorpalZ 10:35:37 02/22/18 Yes the AMS logo is just ground off on the AVS manifolds I - xpwarrior 11:37:40 02/22/18 I understand that, but you wouldn't know it from those pics - compirate 12:29:52 02/22/18 Sorry I missed the part that you were talking only about the - xpwarrior 14:24:53 02/22/18 I hear ya! (n/m) - compirate 14:55:49 02/22/18 Wow, those are identical.. (n/m) - Musashi Sword 13:27:24 02/21/18 I've got a pair of the AVS manifolds and they are just - xpwarrior 16:48:14 02/21/18 Isn't it also possible Concept Z stocked up on the - Boosted1 18:37:34 02/21/18 Coz told me that MS agreed to make a batch of 10 sets - ZXoltan 09:55:02 02/23/18 Couple of things - induetime 09:28:25 02/21/18 thats what they sold for when they were first produced - LJZTT 10:20:22 02/21/18 Ashspec manifold on ebay for $200 - ZXoltan 16:53:55 02/21/18 this looks like an off-spec casting - look @ turbo flange (n/m) - Zbullet 17:02:51 02/21/18 Agreed, maybe an early knock-off(?) (n/m) - Barry (NJ) 09:03:06 02/22/18 They are genuine. Feel free to contact MSP to verify. (n/m) - Stadsport (Nick@CZP) 09:32:22 02/22/18 Re: They are genuine. Feel free to contact MSP to verify. - 1blackz 14:32:16 02/24/18 Mike Smith at http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/ (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 18:56:44 02/24/18 I've got a brand new set that I bought years ago for $600ish - moxie (SF) 20:22:36 02/24/18 Re: Mike Smith MSP TT Manifolds (Update) - BooZtid 12:35:51 03/01/18
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