Subject	yes, it is mocking a past "controversy"
Posted by	LJZTT on September 02, 2015 at 10:25 AM
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In Reply To	I believe Stoptech is the easiest solution for our Z's, but> posted by Spectrum (WI) on September 01, 2015 at 10:50 PM
Message	I think you are right. ST are the easiest in terms of pre-package BBK....sort of PnP for folks who just want to be able to go to track days and not have to delve into technical matters of evaluating hardware to prevent unwanted side-effects of fooling with the braking system. IMHO ST is far preferable, by leaps and bounds, over frankensteining calipers from other OEM braking systems into the Z32 braking system. Unless you know what you need to know, it is inviting all sorts of unwanted issues, some may be immediately realized, others longer-term in nature. This is where ST really exploits the market. In the US, the price of entry into the world of track days and high HP machines is extremely low in relative terms to the rest of the world. This creates a marketplace where a large portion are simply looking for a PnP solution that gets the job done with an appropriate level of quality. ST realizes this and capitalized on it. It doesn't mean they suck. It just means if their competitors realized the situation as well as ST did 10-15 years ago, then they would not have lost so much ground in terms of market share to ST in the US. I didnt see a single car at the Nordschleife or Spa-Francorchamp with ST....I wasn't really keeping track though. Nor do I know if it is even distributed in Europe, I don't think Wilwood is....but AP Racing was ubiquitous. The price of entry is MUCH higher in Europe to be a car guy, much less one who frequents track days....as a result the typical car guy tends to have more knowledge on the matter, or can afford to hand the car over to someone with that knowledge to put the correct/appropriate braking setup on their car. "We pretended to work, and they pretended to pay us." --Mikhail Khodorkovsky "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." --Winston Churchill "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." --Benjamin Franklin "Government is not reason. It is not eloquent. It is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." "The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury." --George Washington END THE FED ....learn why, in 42 minutes Full Pardon for PFC Bradley Manning
Follow Ups	Lets see your big brake kit! - Stanky 21:20:46 08/31/15 StopTech 14' Front and Rear - RAGTPZ 21:37:59 08/31/15 ^he wins. (n/m) - PiotrC70 21:57:36 08/31/15 Now those look good! What pads do you run? (n/m) - Stanky 00:23:38 09/01/15 EBC Red Stuff (n/m) - RAGTPZ 21:21:36 09/01/15 Brembo 350z Bolt-on - ZXoltan 23:16:11 08/31/15 no pics, but i have the akebono kit from coz. - slayer fan 01:08:55 09/01/15 Stanky, in your profile you got the 350 disks listed. - kickerzx 02:51:53 09/01/15 I do want to go bigger. They are an upgrade, but.. - Stanky 09:21:50 09/01/15 Yeah. there is that problem... I vaguely remember there was - kickerzx 11:04:47 09/01/15 wallah! - kickerzx 12:01:13 09/01/15 Stoptechs 14" and 13.5" - Carlos Ramirez 07:42:50 09/01/15 Does anyone have an idea if the 14" will fit under 17" wheel (n/m) - WhiTTe Z 08:05:57 09/01/15 Not likely (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 09:50:22 09/01/15 It will not. - RobZ32 12:00:56 09/01/15 14" StopTech all the way around. - Branz 12:26:09 09/01/15 Here's 2 with AP racing kits - RobZ32 12:35:31 09/01/15 Can I ask what size wheel and offset you run to fit those? (n/m) - Stanky 12:55:11 09/01/15 Re: Can I ask what size wheel and offset you run to fit those? - RobZ32 13:05:20 09/01/15 Awesome, thanks! (n/m) - Stanky 13:24:49 09/01/15 Probably going to get some hate but... - en5 13:29:48 09/01/15 I bought brackets to try these as well. - Woody75 (Denver) 13:59:15 09/01/15 In the middle of an upgrade - NextZ 15:26:59 09/01/15 I like the 18z setup - EngineerLV 16:08:13 09/01/15 That's a great kit, not sure why you'd get hate. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 16:32:35 09/01/15 These are the 17Zs which take some (questionable?) modding - en5 16:57:02 09/01/15 if this bbk complimented the sleek styling of the Z it would - diamond20601 18:53:19 09/01/15 They will get powder coated and have a new logo applied... - en5 19:21:13 09/01/15 Re: They will get powder coated and have a new logo applied... - BLACKTT3Z 12:55:48 09/04/15 Here's where I am sourcing mine... - en5 14:48:49 09/04/15 Re: Here's where I am sourcing mine... - BLACKTT3Z 18:33:49 09/07/15 Yea, cuz everyone goes for style when upgrading brake calipers. (n/m) - bartz32tt 23:34:36 09/01/15 you'd be surprised - vorpalZ 17:00:03 09/04/15 You have to admit he's right. The gold was a stupid color. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 09:18:45 09/09/15 looks great against black... shrug (n/m) - vorpalZ 13:36:54 09/10/15 if you dont upsize your rears similarly your braking bias is - LJZTT 16:21:40 09/04/15 Re: Lets see your big brake kit! - JUNz (?00)rwhp 16:24:21 09/01/15 that's a nice looking, but would look better in red, black, - diamond20601 18:21:42 09/01/15 Re: Lets see your big brake kit! - JUNz (?00)rwhp 16:30:48 09/01/15 Re: Re: Lets see your big brake kit! - Gage 17:03:51 09/01/15 Akebono kit on Enkei PF01 - Onion 17:57:00 09/01/15 Rotora 14" all around - Adamo 20:06:37 09/01/15 The StopTech 13" Kit I use at the track keeps getting pad>>> - Spectrum (WI) 20:52:21 09/01/15 I've had similar issues with Stoptechs. There are anti - MixManMash 21:14:41 09/01/15 you guys are all fools! everybody knows stoptech is the end - LJZTT 22:12:01 09/01/15 Lol. Well played LJ. That's why you are running the AZ - MixManMash 22:45:35 09/01/15 It was simply the best bang for the buck option available - LJZTT 08:10:11 09/02/15 I believe Stoptech is the easiest solution for our Z's, but> - Spectrum (WI) 22:50:54 09/01/15 You could try that, but you might still experience it. Read - MixManMash 09:37:59 09/02/15 yes, it is mocking a past "controversy" - LJZTT 10:25:23 09/02/15 Brembo GT is just as easy a solution but these kits - not4resaleZ 11:49:52 09/02/15 The Brembo GT had an interesting outcome in this - ZiNnYc 21:44:53 09/02/15 Looks like they installed the kit and did Brembo's - not4resaleZ 10:05:19 09/03/15 LOL i was waiting for you to chime in (n/m) - Stanky 23:20:20 09/01/15 You probably need to sell those to some loser with a - ConVerTT 16:32:38 09/02/15 Maybe "sucker", not "loser".... (n/m) - ConVerTT 16:43:44 09/02/15 my verTT could use them... (n/m) - vorpalZ 16:47:12 09/02/15 LOL - i didnt mean you :-) (n/m) - ConVerTT 20:28:58 09/02/15 Plus the reds would clash :-) (n/m) - ConVerTT 20:30:36 09/02/15 Was the kit new? Did you replace the rotors? - ZiNnYc 21:07:28 09/02/15 My recommendation goes to AP Racing. I'm even looking to - MixManMash 21:17:58 09/01/15 Akebono 2 piece rotor BBK - BarryGZX 00:02:47 09/02/15 More pictures of your Z please :-) (n/m) - ArubaDave 00:06:10 09/03/15 sure - BarryGZX 01:38:08 09/04/15 Wilwood all the way around SLP-6 front & GTR-4 rear, - SilverZXTT(CO) 08:00:59 09/02/15 OEM rear rotor? (n/m) - LJZTT 09:16:20 09/02/15 Another vote for Wilwood - vorpalZ 11:10:15 09/02/15 Is that specific Wilwood kit still available? (n/m) - ZXRider 11:39:57 09/02/15 I see Russell's website is gone - vorpalZ 12:32:26 09/02/15 it's really just a matte of finding out what rotor he used - LJZTT 14:59:01 09/02/15 I can get the brackets machined - ZXRider 15:06:20 09/02/15 you fitting to stock wheels? (n/m) - LJZTT 15:48:12 09/02/15 No. 17" Enkei RPF1s - ZXRider 17:44:21 09/02/15 then why would you want those particular brackets? - LJZTT 20:13:25 09/02/15 Sorry for the confusion - ZXRider 16:46:58 09/03/15 yes they fit with ample clearance - LJZTT 14:34:27 09/04/15 Which kit is the one that fit with the stock wheel? (n/m) - ZXRider 11:19:23 09/02/15 The Brembo GT is great. If you want to save money on - not4resaleZ 10:39:46 09/02/15 Re: Lets see your big brake kit! - pintovit 10:49:41 09/02/15 Wilwood in the front - BlitZ91TT 11:37:34 09/02/15 need suggestion for rear cal/rotor w e-brake on 17's - wickdGSXR 13:58:44 09/02/15 it would be important to find out the total piston area of - LJZTT 14:38:14 09/02/15 If you have a Brembo GT kit that Brembo put together, - not4resaleZ 15:28:54 09/02/15 BAM! - LJZTT 15:02:56 09/02/15 Stoptechs FTW - ConVerTT 16:22:36 09/02/15 We use 4 piston CTSV brembos w/350z rotors - JDAVE 19:05:34 09/02/15 How is pedal feel? I find the Stoptechs soft compared to - MixManMash 14:57:14 09/03/15 Feel is like oem only difference is you're able to stop (n/m) - JDAVE 00:44:07 09/04/15 pics of ctsv 4 pistons - JDAVE 19:14:58 09/02/15 Interesting! The 4 pistons are very cheap too.. - Stanky 19:49:58 09/02/15 How do you mount them? special bracket? (n/m) - ZXoltan 20:05:39 09/02/15 backwards IIRC lol (n/m) - LJZTT 20:15:38 09/02/15 I think that was the 6 pots (n/m) - BlackholeZ 00:46:39 09/03/15 Yes that was the 6 pots - JDAVE 05:23:23 09/03/15 mine significantly REDUCED weight, the difference was - LJZTT 14:45:37 09/04/15 There is some modifications involved - JDAVE 05:27:00 09/03/15 Fancy caliper only to use a 350Z rotor? - BlackholeZ 11:28:51 09/03/15 That's our favorite part. They don't weigh a hundred pounds. (n/m) - JDAVE 11:41:51 09/03/15 That's an interesting point, and one I hadn't considered - BlackholeZ 13:08:31 09/05/15 Wilwood SL-6 - Dallas DamonZ 00:05:20 09/03/15 Whoa that is tight! No room to pick up a stone or bit of - ConVerTT 09:11:51 09/03/15 Re: Whoa that is tight! No room to pick up a stone or bit of - Dallas DamonZ 11:38:24 09/03/15 ..highly unlikely to be an issue when rotors are mounted on - LJZTT 14:51:04 09/04/15 Interesting read ! (n/m) - ConVerTT 19:58:02 09/04/15 Very interesting indeed, thanks for sharing - Stanky 01:32:10 09/05/15 I like. Would he OEM spare tire fit over this setup? (n/m) - Mr.Stacy 05:44:07 09/04/15 I haven't tried and I kinda doubt it. (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 10:08:56 09/04/15 Akebono - Z32TT-R 09:08:08 09/16/15
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