Subject	Re: ^^^ this
Posted by	ouikikazz on March 27, 2015 at 12:50 PM
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In Reply To	^^^ this posted by Madhatter10-6 on March 27, 2015 at 11:43 AM
Message	cost of hardware is the same, but for those who don't do their own install and wire runs a haltech is a pain in the ass hence why shops and people charge a lot to install them...not hard work just tedious and time consuming, so therefore haltech isn't for everyone and sometimes people can only afford one thing at a time. I for one think the haltech is the absolute way to go if you have a lot invested in your car but there is no way i will ever install a haltech ECU (just hardware and wireless not tuning) into someones car for less than $500 (that's if you catch me on a good day), it's easily a full days work and not more to make it clean and run it nicely
Follow Ups	Reviews on Nistune - rav_300zx 11:27:19 03/26/15 From what I've read, a Moates Ostrich is better - BlackholeZ 11:40:43 03/26/15 No. Not really. - Antihero 12:54:47 03/26/15 I hope you have your flame suit on :) - DVDBURN (MD) 17:18:44 03/26/15 Always up for discussion :) - Antihero 18:08:07 03/26/15 Good thanks. - DVDBURN (MD) 19:22:51 03/26/15 So one thing that limits the Moates (and Nistune) - BlackholeZ 21:00:21 03/26/15 nistune has found a way to connect flex fuel sensors - Antihero 08:49:06 03/27/15 Ahh... - Antihero 08:48:34 03/27/15 Re: From what I've read, a Moates Ostrich is better - Stadsport (Nick@CZP) 14:12:44 03/26/15 Sorry but, lol. - DVDBURN (MD) 15:06:53 03/27/15 And never had to use the socket booster. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 10:46:18 03/28/15 SZ uses Nistune software with the Ostrich interface. - Woody75 (Denver) 14:23:22 03/26/15 I have been considering NISTUNE as well - SammybTT(TN) 12:30:42 03/26/15 Nistune has been good for me - Stanky 14:24:06 03/26/15 I would stay away from nistune. - michaell32 (FL) 14:28:17 03/26/15 This. Haltech FTW. (n/m) - MixManMash 16:29:01 03/26/15 Price drop? From $1750->$1550? (n/m) - evan_aggie 20:21:41 03/26/15 Yeah, but you start adding the cost of Nistune, a boost - MixManMash 21:18:55 03/26/15 But if you already have most or all of that stuff... - maglito 22:28:46 03/27/15 Truthfully, I made more power on Haltech because of closed - MixManMash 09:07:51 03/28/15 I agree completely, Haltech all the way. - JMW300ZX 08:16:02 03/27/15 ^^^ this - Madhatter10-6 11:43:27 03/27/15 Re: ^^^ this - ouikikazz 12:50:36 03/27/15 The amount of tuning time required is intimidating - bartz32tt 15:30:23 03/27/15 "stay away" implies there is something wrong with it, which - LJZTT 15:22:39 03/27/15 Agreed. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 17:11:13 03/28/15 Re: Reviews on Nistune - ttcarguy 20:16:31 03/26/15 While it can log, you can't do control based on those inputs - MixManMash 10:44:18 03/27/15 Another cool thing is closed loop boost control. I have not - MixManMash 10:50:00 03/27/15 Talking to Greg - BlackholeZ 18:03:38 03/27/15 I dunno about that. Seb tuned my car and I have not - MixManMash 18:35:28 03/27/15 hmm - BlackholeZ 22:19:16 03/27/15 bingo (n/m) - ztunerz 00:18:02 03/28/15 If you guys keep this up you're going to have me convinced I - Inzane 16:31:28 03/28/15 Re: While it can log, you can't do control based on those inputs - ttcarguy 17:44:52 03/27/15 I have used all three options listed above >>> - ztunerz 23:36:38 03/26/15 Great summary. I was hoping that you would chime in (n/m) - ConVerTT 08:19:42 03/27/15 Any comments on AEM? - -Grimm- 10:44:44 03/27/15 Haltech does, but it requires the additional I/O module. - MixManMash 10:52:55 03/27/15 You may not need the I/O expander... - Madhatter10-6 11:49:33 03/27/15 True, but I used a lot of the base I/O (MAP, fuel pressure, - MixManMash 16:30:03 03/27/15 Yeah....the trac is really straight forward - Madhatter10-6 22:01:44 03/29/15 did you install the elite on your Z? (n/m) - aliaZ 18:12:33 03/27/15 In process. (n/m) - Madhatter10-6 21:53:46 03/29/15 Haltech does have traction control now.... - Madhatter10-6 11:47:36 03/27/15 Haltech elite lookes NICE! (n/m) - -Grimm- 18:12:15 03/27/15 Are you going to use a trigger wheel on your Z? - aliaZ 18:14:17 03/27/15 not at first... - Madhatter10-6 22:03:39 03/29/15 I've said it before and I'll say it again... - DVDBURN (MD) 15:45:28 03/27/15 I used to do that, but found these days that more - MixManMash 16:46:06 03/27/15 see... - DVDBURN (MD) 05:23:10 03/28/15 This is true. I found that using the consumer grade - MixManMash 08:55:02 03/28/15 or do use off the shelf, wipe it, and do clean installs - Gromit 17:54:34 03/27/15 only thing on my tuning computer is >>> - ztunerz 00:15:09 03/28/15 Doesn't mean it's not the computer itself. - DVDBURN (MD) 05:04:19 03/28/15 Oh, and... - DVDBURN (MD) 05:18:39 03/28/15 This is a good utility too. Download from my website. - DVDBURN (MD) 11:08:33 03/28/15 fair enough, but I tried 3 different laptops, one of - ztunerz 10:13:36 03/28/15 It really is very strange that you're having those problems. - DVDBURN (MD) 11:04:42 03/28/15 must be :) (n/m) - ztunerz 00:57:37 03/29/15 also have ASUS and several Dells in my arsenal.. - Gromit 22:08:45 03/29/15 I don't tune but..... - Z ONLY1 18:41:32 03/28/15 if everything is working for you now.. - Gromit 20:54:30 03/29/15 Is it possible to use the Moates 2 timer with Nistune? - SammybTT(TN) 18:01:20 03/27/15 No. - DVDBURN (MD) 05:08:56 03/28/15 Hey Gary I sent you an email - SammybTT(TN) 12:37:35 03/28/15 Wait... - ConVerTT 21:57:51 03/28/15 The way I took the question was... - DVDBURN (MD) 07:15:35 03/29/15 Here's a link to me installing a 2Timer board. - DVDBURN (MD) 07:39:32 03/29/15 Ahh ... Gotcha - ConVerTT 09:30:08 03/29/15 Sure, you can do that. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 09:48:02 03/29/15
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