Subject	Good thanks.
Posted by	DVDBURN (MD) on March 26, 2015 at 7:22 PM
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In Reply To	Always up for discussion :) posted by Antihero on March 26, 2015 at 06:08 PM
Message	Still, map trace is a function of software. What Moates did was to implement software (firmware) in their interface that would be a self sustaining way of doing map trace. Meaning that only a little bit of programming was needed in order to poll the map trace values. You still need software to make it happen. Getting the info isn't magic :) They improved this function in the version II but I haven't used it's capability in my own "software" yet. Yes you can tweak an ostrich in realtime on the fly. Doing it is just like doing it with Nistune (but faster!). Anything you do with Nistune you can do with the Ostrich. Nistune software even supports the Ostrich in their software and the tuning with it in real time is the same. As far as your number 4. Yes the Ostrich connects to the same 28 pin socket as the Nistune does. Logging and all that is again, software. You poll for data and receive it through whatever you use to connect to the consult port and log it from there. Doesn't matter what's plugged into the socket. Zim, Nistune or Ostrich. They are all emulators. As far as the speed, sending data to the Ostrich is much faster because you send it via a USB port on the Ostrich. You read the data on the consult port. With Nistune you do both on the consult port and that's why it's slower. You have to stop and start the data flow during tuning. With the Ostrich you always have a constant flow of data to the PC software from the consult port while you send changes to the Ostrich via a USB cable connected to it at even greater speeds. So, reading the data from the Ostrich is the same as you do from Nistune. You do it through the consult port. Sending data to the Ostrich is really fast. You can send or receive a whole bin file in less than 15 seconds. With the Ostrich, changing a complete tune can be done in a click of the mouse and it can hold 8 bin files for immediate access. www.mytwinturbo.com Nissan Data Voice - The first Nissan diagnostic software with a voice! Nissan Data Voice on YouTube Download my Nissan 300ZX Vin/Model Lookup.
Follow Ups	Reviews on Nistune - rav_300zx 11:27:19 03/26/15 From what I've read, a Moates Ostrich is better - BlackholeZ 11:40:43 03/26/15 No. Not really. - Antihero 12:54:47 03/26/15 I hope you have your flame suit on :) - DVDBURN (MD) 17:18:44 03/26/15 Always up for discussion :) - Antihero 18:08:07 03/26/15 Good thanks. - DVDBURN (MD) 19:22:51 03/26/15 So one thing that limits the Moates (and Nistune) - BlackholeZ 21:00:21 03/26/15 nistune has found a way to connect flex fuel sensors - Antihero 08:49:06 03/27/15 Ahh... - Antihero 08:48:34 03/27/15 Re: From what I've read, a Moates Ostrich is better - Stadsport (Nick@CZP) 14:12:44 03/26/15 Sorry but, lol. - DVDBURN (MD) 15:06:53 03/27/15 And never had to use the socket booster. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 10:46:18 03/28/15 SZ uses Nistune software with the Ostrich interface. - Woody75 (Denver) 14:23:22 03/26/15 I have been considering NISTUNE as well - SammybTT(TN) 12:30:42 03/26/15 Nistune has been good for me - Stanky 14:24:06 03/26/15 I would stay away from nistune. - michaell32 (FL) 14:28:17 03/26/15 This. Haltech FTW. (n/m) - MixManMash 16:29:01 03/26/15 Price drop? From $1750->$1550? (n/m) - evan_aggie 20:21:41 03/26/15 Yeah, but you start adding the cost of Nistune, a boost - MixManMash 21:18:55 03/26/15 But if you already have most or all of that stuff... - maglito 22:28:46 03/27/15 Truthfully, I made more power on Haltech because of closed - MixManMash 09:07:51 03/28/15 I agree completely, Haltech all the way. - JMW300ZX 08:16:02 03/27/15 ^^^ this - Madhatter10-6 11:43:27 03/27/15 Re: ^^^ this - ouikikazz 12:50:36 03/27/15 The amount of tuning time required is intimidating - bartz32tt 15:30:23 03/27/15 "stay away" implies there is something wrong with it, which - LJZTT 15:22:39 03/27/15 Agreed. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 17:11:13 03/28/15 Re: Reviews on Nistune - ttcarguy 20:16:31 03/26/15 While it can log, you can't do control based on those inputs - MixManMash 10:44:18 03/27/15 Another cool thing is closed loop boost control. I have not - MixManMash 10:50:00 03/27/15 Talking to Greg - BlackholeZ 18:03:38 03/27/15 I dunno about that. Seb tuned my car and I have not - MixManMash 18:35:28 03/27/15 hmm - BlackholeZ 22:19:16 03/27/15 bingo (n/m) - ztunerz 00:18:02 03/28/15 If you guys keep this up you're going to have me convinced I - Inzane 16:31:28 03/28/15 Re: While it can log, you can't do control based on those inputs - ttcarguy 17:44:52 03/27/15 I have used all three options listed above >>> - ztunerz 23:36:38 03/26/15 Great summary. I was hoping that you would chime in (n/m) - ConVerTT 08:19:42 03/27/15 Any comments on AEM? - -Grimm- 10:44:44 03/27/15 Haltech does, but it requires the additional I/O module. - MixManMash 10:52:55 03/27/15 You may not need the I/O expander... - Madhatter10-6 11:49:33 03/27/15 True, but I used a lot of the base I/O (MAP, fuel pressure, - MixManMash 16:30:03 03/27/15 Yeah....the trac is really straight forward - Madhatter10-6 22:01:44 03/29/15 did you install the elite on your Z? (n/m) - aliaZ 18:12:33 03/27/15 In process. (n/m) - Madhatter10-6 21:53:46 03/29/15 Haltech does have traction control now.... - Madhatter10-6 11:47:36 03/27/15 Haltech elite lookes NICE! (n/m) - -Grimm- 18:12:15 03/27/15 Are you going to use a trigger wheel on your Z? - aliaZ 18:14:17 03/27/15 not at first... - Madhatter10-6 22:03:39 03/29/15 I've said it before and I'll say it again... - DVDBURN (MD) 15:45:28 03/27/15 I used to do that, but found these days that more - MixManMash 16:46:06 03/27/15 see... - DVDBURN (MD) 05:23:10 03/28/15 This is true. I found that using the consumer grade - MixManMash 08:55:02 03/28/15 or do use off the shelf, wipe it, and do clean installs - Gromit 17:54:34 03/27/15 only thing on my tuning computer is >>> - ztunerz 00:15:09 03/28/15 Doesn't mean it's not the computer itself. - DVDBURN (MD) 05:04:19 03/28/15 Oh, and... - DVDBURN (MD) 05:18:39 03/28/15 This is a good utility too. Download from my website. - DVDBURN (MD) 11:08:33 03/28/15 fair enough, but I tried 3 different laptops, one of - ztunerz 10:13:36 03/28/15 It really is very strange that you're having those problems. - DVDBURN (MD) 11:04:42 03/28/15 must be :) (n/m) - ztunerz 00:57:37 03/29/15 also have ASUS and several Dells in my arsenal.. - Gromit 22:08:45 03/29/15 I don't tune but..... - Z ONLY1 18:41:32 03/28/15 if everything is working for you now.. - Gromit 20:54:30 03/29/15 Is it possible to use the Moates 2 timer with Nistune? - SammybTT(TN) 18:01:20 03/27/15 No. - DVDBURN (MD) 05:08:56 03/28/15 Hey Gary I sent you an email - SammybTT(TN) 12:37:35 03/28/15 Wait... - ConVerTT 21:57:51 03/28/15 The way I took the question was... - DVDBURN (MD) 07:15:35 03/29/15 Here's a link to me installing a 2Timer board. - DVDBURN (MD) 07:39:32 03/29/15 Ahh ... Gotcha - ConVerTT 09:30:08 03/29/15 Sure, you can do that. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 09:48:02 03/29/15
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