Subject	Re: From what I've read, a Moates Ostrich is better
Posted by	Stadsport (Nick@CZP) on March 26, 2015 at 2:12 PM
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In Reply To	From what I've read, a Moates Ostrich is better posted by BlackholeZ on March 26, 2015 at 11:40 AM
Message	I've tried the Ostrich and hated it, to be honest. The connection was so finnicky. For it to work with the Z32 ECU, you have to run a "socket booster" or a shorter ribbon cable. I even ran both, and it still had connection issues half the time. Also, it's really designed to be used with TunerPro, which is extremely limited and incapable of displaying the Z32's fuel/timing maps correctly because of the way the values are stored on the maps. Plus, the Ostrich's USB cable only communicates with the Ostrich itself. It doesn't allow you to log data from the Consult stream easily, so you end up running a Consult cable in addition to the Ostrich. Consult might seem like a limitation on paper, but in real world use, it works great. Logging speed/accuracy rivals modern standalones, it reads and writes instantly, and it will upload or download the entire ECU ROM in about 5-10 seconds flat. I seriously prefer it to OBDII communication. The software itself is also a lot more capable and can just plain do so much more than you can do with an Ostrich. Just my 2c, but full disclosure, I'm kind of a Nistune fanboy ;)
Follow Ups	Reviews on Nistune - rav_300zx 11:27:19 03/26/15 From what I've read, a Moates Ostrich is better - BlackholeZ 11:40:43 03/26/15 No. Not really. - Antihero 12:54:47 03/26/15 I hope you have your flame suit on :) - DVDBURN (MD) 17:18:44 03/26/15 Always up for discussion :) - Antihero 18:08:07 03/26/15 Good thanks. - DVDBURN (MD) 19:22:51 03/26/15 So one thing that limits the Moates (and Nistune) - BlackholeZ 21:00:21 03/26/15 nistune has found a way to connect flex fuel sensors - Antihero 08:49:06 03/27/15 Ahh... - Antihero 08:48:34 03/27/15 Re: From what I've read, a Moates Ostrich is better - Stadsport (Nick@CZP) 14:12:44 03/26/15 Sorry but, lol. - DVDBURN (MD) 15:06:53 03/27/15 And never had to use the socket booster. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 10:46:18 03/28/15 SZ uses Nistune software with the Ostrich interface. - Woody75 (Denver) 14:23:22 03/26/15 I have been considering NISTUNE as well - SammybTT(TN) 12:30:42 03/26/15 Nistune has been good for me - Stanky 14:24:06 03/26/15 I would stay away from nistune. - michaell32 (FL) 14:28:17 03/26/15 This. Haltech FTW. (n/m) - MixManMash 16:29:01 03/26/15 Price drop? From $1750->$1550? (n/m) - evan_aggie 20:21:41 03/26/15 Yeah, but you start adding the cost of Nistune, a boost - MixManMash 21:18:55 03/26/15 But if you already have most or all of that stuff... - maglito 22:28:46 03/27/15 Truthfully, I made more power on Haltech because of closed - MixManMash 09:07:51 03/28/15 I agree completely, Haltech all the way. - JMW300ZX 08:16:02 03/27/15 ^^^ this - Madhatter10-6 11:43:27 03/27/15 Re: ^^^ this - ouikikazz 12:50:36 03/27/15 The amount of tuning time required is intimidating - bartz32tt 15:30:23 03/27/15 "stay away" implies there is something wrong with it, which - LJZTT 15:22:39 03/27/15 Agreed. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 17:11:13 03/28/15 Re: Reviews on Nistune - ttcarguy 20:16:31 03/26/15 While it can log, you can't do control based on those inputs - MixManMash 10:44:18 03/27/15 Another cool thing is closed loop boost control. I have not - MixManMash 10:50:00 03/27/15 Talking to Greg - BlackholeZ 18:03:38 03/27/15 I dunno about that. Seb tuned my car and I have not - MixManMash 18:35:28 03/27/15 hmm - BlackholeZ 22:19:16 03/27/15 bingo (n/m) - ztunerz 00:18:02 03/28/15 If you guys keep this up you're going to have me convinced I - Inzane 16:31:28 03/28/15 Re: While it can log, you can't do control based on those inputs - ttcarguy 17:44:52 03/27/15 I have used all three options listed above >>> - ztunerz 23:36:38 03/26/15 Great summary. I was hoping that you would chime in (n/m) - ConVerTT 08:19:42 03/27/15 Any comments on AEM? - -Grimm- 10:44:44 03/27/15 Haltech does, but it requires the additional I/O module. - MixManMash 10:52:55 03/27/15 You may not need the I/O expander... - Madhatter10-6 11:49:33 03/27/15 True, but I used a lot of the base I/O (MAP, fuel pressure, - MixManMash 16:30:03 03/27/15 Yeah....the trac is really straight forward - Madhatter10-6 22:01:44 03/29/15 did you install the elite on your Z? (n/m) - aliaZ 18:12:33 03/27/15 In process. (n/m) - Madhatter10-6 21:53:46 03/29/15 Haltech does have traction control now.... - Madhatter10-6 11:47:36 03/27/15 Haltech elite lookes NICE! (n/m) - -Grimm- 18:12:15 03/27/15 Are you going to use a trigger wheel on your Z? - aliaZ 18:14:17 03/27/15 not at first... - Madhatter10-6 22:03:39 03/29/15 I've said it before and I'll say it again... - DVDBURN (MD) 15:45:28 03/27/15 I used to do that, but found these days that more - MixManMash 16:46:06 03/27/15 see... - DVDBURN (MD) 05:23:10 03/28/15 This is true. I found that using the consumer grade - MixManMash 08:55:02 03/28/15 or do use off the shelf, wipe it, and do clean installs - Gromit 17:54:34 03/27/15 only thing on my tuning computer is >>> - ztunerz 00:15:09 03/28/15 Doesn't mean it's not the computer itself. - DVDBURN (MD) 05:04:19 03/28/15 Oh, and... - DVDBURN (MD) 05:18:39 03/28/15 This is a good utility too. Download from my website. - DVDBURN (MD) 11:08:33 03/28/15 fair enough, but I tried 3 different laptops, one of - ztunerz 10:13:36 03/28/15 It really is very strange that you're having those problems. - DVDBURN (MD) 11:04:42 03/28/15 must be :) (n/m) - ztunerz 00:57:37 03/29/15 also have ASUS and several Dells in my arsenal.. - Gromit 22:08:45 03/29/15 I don't tune but..... - Z ONLY1 18:41:32 03/28/15 if everything is working for you now.. - Gromit 20:54:30 03/29/15 Is it possible to use the Moates 2 timer with Nistune? - SammybTT(TN) 18:01:20 03/27/15 No. - DVDBURN (MD) 05:08:56 03/28/15 Hey Gary I sent you an email - SammybTT(TN) 12:37:35 03/28/15 Wait... - ConVerTT 21:57:51 03/28/15 The way I took the question was... - DVDBURN (MD) 07:15:35 03/29/15 Here's a link to me installing a 2Timer board. - DVDBURN (MD) 07:39:32 03/29/15 Ahh ... Gotcha - ConVerTT 09:30:08 03/29/15 Sure, you can do that. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 09:48:02 03/29/15
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