Subject	Yep. The fault lies also with the EPA or Transport Canada
Posted by	MixManMash on January 11, 2014 at 5:46 PM
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In Reply To	it surprises me in the era of higher speed limits AND higher posted by LJZTT on January 11, 2014 at 05:36 PM
Message	with their standardized tests that don't even come close to the real world conditions. All the auto manufacturers have figured out how to optimize their cars to give great numbers on these tests. Mostly, by tuning transmission shift points and the ECU, the show these crazy numbers which are impossible to replicate. I will give the EPA some credit as they have updated their testing standards a few years ago to be more "real world.". Apparently Transport Canada is now following suit. But they need to find a way to get closer to real world testing.
Follow Ups	I wish we had the support that supra guys have... - KongZTT GT28RS MD 12:44:24 01/10/14 Re: I wish we had the support that supra guys have... - moxie (SF) 13:41:40 01/10/14 what?? we have flower pots and billet ghk's.. - shaggee 13:48:46 01/10/14 Obviously, the proof is in the pudding - Zsgetyoulaid 13:49:09 01/10/14 Do YOU really need aftermarket axles? - Zvil (FL) 14:07:26 01/10/14 2nd... - BlitZ91TT 14:56:22 01/10/14 I agree we are sexier :) - KongZTT GT28RS MD 15:10:32 01/10/14 Most of the supras dont even need those. - michaell32 (FL) 18:48:12 01/10/14 FYI - I have abt 1k at the motor -- i have broken rear - The Devils Z 10:50:11 01/11/14 grass is always greener...... - LJZTT 14:19:46 01/10/14 You know what I mean :) (n/m) - KongZTT GT28RS MD 14:21:53 01/10/14 actually I don't, unless you were being sarcastic - LJZTT 14:51:48 01/10/14 While I agree with many of those points... - KongZTT GT28RS MD 15:05:56 01/10/14 no doubt, but I think that can be attributed to having a - LJZTT 18:26:53 01/10/14 Haha... that I def agree with.. - KongZTT GT28RS MD 18:36:28 01/10/14 I remember when I bought my NA in '03 and took it to get - LJZTT 10:17:52 01/11/14 haha.. I remember I looked on tt.net since I was 15.. - KongZTT GT28RS MD 18:13:12 01/11/14 Interesting... Why more gears? - VERTTZ 08:49:50 01/11/14 Just to bring down cruising rpms at 75 mph - LJZTT 11:26:02 01/11/14 How so? - VERTTZ 13:10:39 01/11/14 Transmission gearing would also make a huge difference. - MixManMash 16:58:47 01/11/14 I have no complaints with the gearing of the transmission - LJZTT 17:02:39 01/11/14 now consider a 0.6:1 6th gear with a 4.10 rear end - LJZTT 17:16:10 01/11/14 damn, sorry those links were preserved in preview (n/m) - LJZTT 17:24:46 01/11/14 What Im saying is... - VERTTZ 21:00:21 01/11/14 Well if the 4.10 rear gives the car more pep throughout - LJZTT 23:32:27 01/11/14 Agreed. An extra overdrive gear would be nice. (n/m) - MixManMash 16:56:01 01/11/14 it surprises me in the era of higher speed limits AND higher - LJZTT 17:36:30 01/11/14 Yep. The fault lies also with the EPA or Transport Canada - MixManMash 17:46:14 01/11/14 Remember Joel Grannas? Of z32power.com? - KongZTT GT28RS MD 14:29:26 01/10/14 Oh and I'm talking 8.36@175.. Street car.. AC.. PS etc. (n/m) - KongZTT GT28RS MD 14:31:41 01/10/14 notice no water jackets in that block. race only block - Z32POWER.com 14:48:51 01/10/14 Jorge lazcano's 350z powered by VG30 ET 6.4 best - MikeVar82 16:24:31 01/10/14 thank you, that is the car i was looking for. - Z32POWER.com 07:39:17 01/11/14 im currently building a 1000whp supra and I agree - volcomstone550 15:40:51 01/10/14 I can't wait to see (some) of the supra guys drool - JDAVE 17:08:58 01/10/14 Anymore info on this Gtx3576? (n/m) - MikeVar82 17:52:03 01/10/14 I can't wait to drool either! - KongZTT GT28RS MD 18:48:44 01/10/14 Never underestimate drugs...... (n/m) - The Hawk 22:18:08 01/10/14 Sir, the Z is your drug. Thus, youre spending it on a drug (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 00:05:04 01/11/14 ? You want a billet aluminum VG30DETT block? - ZXRider 18:00:38 01/10/14 SURREE... make ME do all the work :) - KongZTT GT28RS MD 18:46:15 01/10/14 Somewhere, someplace, a Brownie Troop is looking - GatorJ 19:55:45 01/10/14 Eh, the supra prolly needs to use a Ford rear end because - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 00:02:29 01/11/14 Oh no.. The supra rear is strong if not stronger than ours - KongZTT GT28RS MD 05:30:40 01/11/14 then why do they need a Ford rear end? just bc they can? (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 11:22:36 01/11/14 I imagine there are far more options for gearsets for the - LJZTT 11:27:53 01/11/14 because there are many in the 1300rwhp+ range. - KongZTT GT28RS MD 17:38:21 01/11/14 LOL - Z32POWER.com 07:38:05 01/11/14 Parts support for the supra sucks!!!! I deal with mk4'/mk3's - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 13:13:38 01/11/14 This is already happening with nistune/untouched internals (n/m) - 280ZuL8r 14:25:55 01/11/14 Why go through all the expense/trouble for stock turbos? - bartz32tt 15:08:20 01/11/14 Trying out a new recipe. Definitely worth it in my opinion. (n/m) - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 18:05:36 01/11/14 there have been a few already, high comp , e85, standalone.. (n/m) - Z32TT-R 00:47:00 01/16/14 But still ugly. (n/m) - sparkie 01:08:51 01/12/14 yea, not my favorite - Z32POWER.com 22:00:00 01/12/14 But not the ugliest. That dubious honor goes to the VR-4 (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:53:16 01/13/14 haha +1! (n/m) - KongZTT GT28RS MD 18:15:10 01/13/14 Ehh...it's clone is worse (Stealth RT/TT) (n/m) - black300zx 20:25:07 01/13/14 Re: I wish we had the support that supra guys have... - Feenix 18:32:33 01/11/14
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