Subject	E85 is great stuff... We do a lot of E85 builds at the shop!
Posted by	JonnyZ(SoCal) on July 04, 2013 at 3:45 PM
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In Reply To	E85 posted by longlivetheZ on July 04, 2013 at 02:32 PM
Message	Octane can vary, but its around 105ish, you will need all of your fuel components to be compatible (pump, all hoses, injectors and anything metal must all be E85 compliant). E85 doesn't flow like gasoline so you will need to make up for about 30% difference, so for 600-700 hp you would need injectors that are 1000cc+, We always advise that you go with the biggest injectors you can because you don't want to run the injectors at 100% duty cycle as they can fail faster and have to work harder. (its better to run 1500cc injectors at 50% than it is to run 750cc at 100%) For hoses soft lines must be teflon coated, hard lines must be stainless steel, or anodized aluminum (hard anodized is best) same goes with fittings (anodized or stainless steel) Yes its cheaper to make power by the gallon then running race gas, just that you need to have to proper setup. E85 is great because it keeps combustion temps down, due to that you are able to run more boost/timing without detonation. There is a lot to think about when going with E85 so do some research!
Follow Ups	E85 - longlivetheZ 14:32:44 07/04/13 It's very new to the Z32 - Piranha 15:43:54 07/04/13 Flex fuel sensors are a great tool for E85... - JonnyZ(SoCal) 15:49:52 07/04/13 Yea we are seeing quite a few other platforms blowing - Piranha 01:01:11 07/05/13 You don't "need" a stand-alone. - The Hawk 20:32:26 07/04/13 2nd (n/m) - maglito 08:14:34 07/05/13 huh? - FuerGrissa 09:18:47 07/05/13 use the zeitronix to mix down to your tuned e% at the pump - maglito 10:32:12 07/05/13 ^This! Listen to the man who has actually done it! (n/m) - The Hawk 11:25:19 07/05/13 FuerGrissa's opinion I highly value - maglito 12:10:10 07/05/13 I've been listening to people who have done it for years. - Piranha 12:13:34 07/05/13 Then just run a very safe/conservative 91octane pump program - maglito 12:43:16 07/05/13 Yea that would work too and I will look into that this fall. - Piranha 12:58:46 07/05/13 Your method makes the most sense to me as well - bartz32tt 14:16:37 07/05/13 Well Greg is the one who tuned him on that setup, so... (n/m) - The Hawk 16:05:39 07/05/13 and? I'm sure it's safe for 60% Ethanol, but whenever a - Piranha 16:47:10 07/05/13 You were just referencing GD.... - The Hawk 17:33:50 07/05/13 Damn right I value Gregs input... - Piranha 18:05:31 07/05/13 ProEFI "commercials" are just fabulous. - The Hawk 11:06:18 07/06/13 Don't know why you are so defensive? - Piranha 16:11:13 07/06/13 I'm just trying to educate people..... - The Hawk 22:15:07 07/06/13 Who are you again? - Piranha 01:32:09 07/07/13 Face palm.... (n/m) - The Hawk 11:32:43 07/07/13 Do you even work on your own Z? face palm... (n/m) - Piranha 19:32:54 07/07/13 So now we've apparently switched gears and - The Hawk 11:33:09 07/08/13 dont listen to any of that.... (n/m) - Dane (Houston) 00:40:24 07/05/13 Yea I have no idea what I'm talking about. (n/m) - Piranha 00:51:55 07/05/13 all you need to runs e85 is fuel injectors, nistune and - Dane (Houston) 23:56:00 07/05/13 ^This (n/m) - The Hawk 11:37:09 07/07/13 All you "need" to run flex fuel is a credit card and - Piranha 19:37:21 07/07/13 Coincidence that everyone on here running it - The Hawk 15:58:17 07/08/13 that statment is some what true for some cars - Dane (Houston) 01:56:05 07/09/13 E85 is great stuff... We do a lot of E85 builds at the shop! - JonnyZ(SoCal) 15:45:41 07/04/13 Only things I upgraded - Z32TT-R 16:17:33 07/04/13 Re: E85 - longlivetheZ 17:02:51 07/04/13 The stock fuel pump cannot support that much whp on - Z32TT-R 17:52:08 07/04/13 We've made close to 600whp on e70-e80 with 740's/stock pump - JDAVE 19:21:01 07/04/13 Are you keeping the oem fuel lines or switching? (n/m) - bartz32tt 23:06:34 07/04/13 You should swutch to a bio fuel line as mentioned - Z32TT-R 13:41:09 07/05/13 Did you have to drop your fuel tank to change those - bartz32tt 14:19:55 07/05/13 Think you do with a 2+2. (n/m) - Z32TT-R 01:17:48 07/07/13 Greg said he could add fuel into the maps but wouldn't be as - Piranha 12:21:08 07/05/13 I'll send you an email... - JonnyZ(SoCal) 01:23:44 07/05/13 Re: I'll send you an email... - longlivetheZ 16:17:42 07/06/13 E85 does not require a "conversion", it follows the same - samsung-Z [Houston] 21:07:53 07/04/13 Re: -740cc's limits you to around the same, 500ish. - BoneZ (MD) 23:21:59 07/04/13 I'm sorry but.. - Z32TT-R 13:51:53 07/05/13 Re: E85 - blackice98 22:05:23 07/04/13 Which Meth injection kit are you planning on using? (n/m) - MixManMash 06:44:55 07/05/13 Re: Which Meth injection kit are you planning on using? - blackice98 06:53:41 07/05/13 Pure Meth is going to cause problems with the pump. - MixManMash 15:01:32 07/05/13 there is a reason why top fuel dragsters run alcohol (n/m) - LJZTT 22:58:12 07/04/13 T/F run nitromethane. T/A run alcohol. But yeah, same idea. (n/m) - Ted (92TT) 01:04:46 07/05/13 admittedly I dont know my classifications, but yeah, you - LJZTT 17:38:00 07/05/13 Here is one of SZs higher hp Z32s tuned on e85 - Piranha 14:52:39 07/05/13 I'm familiar w/ Chin's old car. - The Hawk 16:02:34 07/05/13 That run was on the lowest boost possible... at 800+ - Piranha 16:51:49 07/05/13
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