Subject	I see your point
Posted by	toykoz32 on June 30, 2013 at 6:10 PM
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In Reply To	you're missing the point posted by LJZTT on June 30, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Message	I also recommend a map selector/moates. His main purpose probably is for max hp, but he can also get fuel at a lower cost. I hear the myth that e85 will lower you mpg by 30%. I believe people saying this is comparing pump tune (12-18psi, depending on car) to e85 tune (25+ psi ). Of course your going to consume more fuel. If driving the car at the same psi , the fuel consumption is very similar.
Follow Ups	Injector and fuel pump sizing for e85 - AddictedToBoost 10:32:50 06/29/13 Depends on your HP goals... - 1badz32 (MN) 10:36:59 06/29/13 Re: Depends on your HP goals... - AddictedToBoost 10:41:05 06/29/13 Maybe not on pump gas... - 1badz32 (MN) 10:46:54 06/29/13 Re: Maybe not on pump gas... - AddictedToBoost 10:52:30 06/29/13 850's, good OEM fp, done deal for your sp500's.. - samsung-Z [Houston] 13:25:01 06/29/13 What kind of mileage do you get on that, though? (n/m) - Marshall 17:34:06 06/29/13 my Zed is a sports car, not a honda, whats gas mileage? ? ;) (n/m) - samsung-Z [Houston] 08:29:35 06/30/13 it's what determines how far away you can drive from that - LJZTT 12:36:43 06/30/13 Ever heard of selectable maps? Nothing new + affordable! - samsung-Z [Houston] 19:14:44 06/30/13 no one cares about your input, so stfu (n/m) - LJZTT 21:25:00 06/30/13 What's a zed? (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 14:59:18 07/01/13 With those turbos get some 850s with a couple fuel pumps (n/m) - Piranha 10:49:08 06/29/13 you don't want to convert to E85 just to run SP500's (n/m) - LJZTT 13:32:35 06/29/13 Re: you don't want to convert to E85 just to run SP500's - AddictedToBoost 13:44:11 06/29/13 are you really into drag racing? - LJZTT 19:47:12 06/29/13 Actually e85 with sport 500s would be fast as hell! - Piranha 14:20:11 06/29/13 E85 on stockers would be "worth" it... (n/m) - dogpile 15:22:17 06/29/13 convince me, in terms of $ for increased-HP ratio (n/m) - LJZTT 19:49:36 06/29/13 Re: convince me, in terms of $ for increased-HP ratio - AddictedToBoost 20:14:44 06/29/13 just for injectors? - LJZTT 21:18:53 06/29/13 On that same train of thought, why upgrade at all then? - dogpile 23:32:25 06/29/13 set that tool back on the shelf and save your breathe.. . - samsung-Z [Houston] 08:26:59 06/30/13 adults are talking child, go back to twitter (n/m) - LJZTT 11:19:29 06/30/13 well it isn't the same train of thought - LJZTT 12:25:25 06/30/13 "Building" for E85 is simply overbuilding for pump. Period. - dogpile 21:11:16 06/30/13 Actually I'm just asking the questions one should be asking - LJZTT 21:36:48 06/30/13 I agree. - dogpile 08:48:07 07/01/13 Sure, if it were available just like regular fuel, it would - LJZTT 12:53:11 07/01/13 It is in some areas, and the performance increase outweighs - dogpile 22:37:31 07/01/13 Well I have been gone for a few years, but I have only seen - LJZTT 23:00:18 07/01/13 Fair enough. The government talk is fairly moot though since - dogpile 08:35:58 07/02/13 It was tough to resist the temptation to relocate to Texas - LJZTT 14:10:11 07/02/13 Convince you of what, that's he octane limited? - dogpile 09:06:41 06/30/13 you're missing the point - LJZTT 11:28:49 06/30/13 I see your point - toykoz32 18:10:01 06/30/13 Re: you're missing the point - AddictedToBoost 19:15:23 06/30/13 If you are going E85, I highly recommend going with a - MixManMash 13:40:09 06/29/13 That's what's stopping me right now (n/m) - Piranha 14:13:47 06/29/13 Can't you just tune for something lower, - The Hawk 15:01:01 06/29/13 With a change in ethanol content, your target AFR changes - BlackholeZ 15:30:48 06/29/13 But you can run it much leaner and still not detonate. - The Hawk 20:10:46 06/29/13 Overkill statement for pump E85, though the sensors are - samsung-Z [Houston] 14:56:47 06/29/13 This is what I was getting at in my post above. - The Hawk 15:04:53 06/29/13 Re: This is what I was getting at in my post above. - AddictedToBoost 15:13:40 06/29/13 The gas station has nothing to do with the content. - BlackholeZ 15:37:21 06/29/13 Re: The gas station has nothing to do with the content. - AddictedToBoost 16:06:33 06/29/13 The Haltech is very different. It can do many functions. - MixManMash 17:58:57 06/29/13 Once you fill up and your tank mixes it will be consistent - BlackholeZ 20:37:10 06/29/13 You are misunderstanding what the haltech does with a flex - ztunerz 22:01:26 06/29/13 Exactly. Every batch of fuel they get will be different. (n/m) - MixManMash 17:59:54 06/29/13 bingo, there is a "right way" to do something, and then - LJZTT 12:33:38 06/30/13 I would suggest you talk to someone that tunes - toykoz32 16:47:24 06/29/13 I also recommend you break your motor in - toykoz32 16:55:20 06/29/13 Re: I also recommend you break your motor in - AddictedToBoost 18:13:05 06/29/13 So the ECA let's you measure the ethanol content. How is - MixManMash 17:54:44 06/29/13 When you car is tuned you know the ethanol content - toykoz32 18:41:53 06/29/13 So you essentially have to be comfortable tuning in order to - MixManMash 00:25:29 06/30/13 You have to be comfy making a broad fuel compensation, yes. - dogpile 08:58:31 06/30/13 Cool. Thanks. (n/m) - MixManMash 11:28:17 06/30/13 Or you can just be comfortable mixing fuels (very easy) - maglito 21:34:38 06/30/13 Questions: - bartz32tt 00:02:16 07/01/13 Answers: - maglito 03:32:18 07/01/13 Good info - thanks! One last question: - bartz32tt 08:48:40 07/01/13 Really I'm very happy with e63 - maglito 14:50:28 07/01/13 It's like running a wideband without a fancy ECU - BlackholeZ 21:13:21 06/29/13 Can anyone say J&S Knock Controller? - rcmadness 23:50:37 06/30/13 What was your injector duty cycle? - Alan (TN) 11:21:13 07/02/13 Re: What was your injector duty cycle? - rcmadness 23:33:44 07/05/13 Re: What was your injector duty cycle? - rcmadness 10:16:47 07/06/13 Nismo 740cc will support sp500s with a stock pump - Dane (Houston) 03:12:02 07/01/13 I have been running E85 for over a year and LOVE it! - Bumblebeetuna 07:56:57 07/01/13
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