Subject	True. With the little I know about US history and politics,
Posted by	MixManMash on June 03, 2013 at 1:19 PM
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In Reply To	that is no capitalism posted by LJZTT on June 03, 2013 at 01:11 PM
Message	it appears to me that the founding fathers had a vastly different vision for America. Corporate greed unfortunately infiltrated and ends up controlling the government. Heck, I don't even think the president is really in control here.
Follow Ups	Fellow Z enthuasist in need of our help - ltullos 21:24:50 06/02/13 but, but, I thought, Obama fixed all that.....right??? - LJZTT 21:37:31 06/02/13 Jesus dude, give it a rest once and a while - Broke_as_**** 21:48:46 06/02/13 *once in a while - TriniTT 21:55:46 06/02/13 Spot on ^^^ (n/m) - Red Hawk (CO) 22:04:58 06/02/13 Wait till 2014 when the shit hits the fan. - njz 22:11:05 06/02/13 I cannot wait until everyone knows what it is like 1st hand - LJZTT 09:10:29 06/03/13 They may not call it what it is, but this tells it all - njz 11:32:53 06/03/13 That's so twisted I thought for sure it was sarcasm. (n/m) - Evan(CA) 00:20:45 06/03/13 Except it's not sarcasm. It's extreme Right Winged thinking. (n/m) - Aqualung 01:10:55 06/03/13 More like "against big government" thinking - TriniTT 04:10:43 06/03/13 Sad you feel that way, but mindsets like yours got us here. (n/m) - TriniTT 07:17:31 06/03/13 Everyone chips in for the police, firemen, roads etc why not - Evan(CA) 18:32:42 06/03/13 last I checked those are all local government institutions, - LJZTT 16:19:23 06/04/13 You are always complainging about government waste yet you - Evan(CA) 17:02:36 06/04/13 what are you, 17 years old? - LJZTT 22:20:19 06/04/13 then again I wouldnt expect someone from CA to have the - LJZTT 22:23:39 06/04/13 They have gone far beyond their constitional rights in so - Evan(CA) 22:57:34 06/04/13 Ron Paul is the last statesman - LJZTT 23:34:59 06/04/13 oh and you might want to start getting your "info" from - LJZTT 23:59:41 06/04/13 You're right, he got approval from congress by him and his - Evan(CA) 00:40:18 06/05/13 hit the nail right on the head (n/m) - Ahmed (NoVA) 13:27:48 06/05/13 Do you really think spending 700b a year murdering people - Evan(CA) 22:46:47 06/04/13 there is no discussing anything with you if you honestly - LJZTT 23:38:34 06/04/13 Of course that wasn't the goal but that is what happened. - Evan(CA) 00:05:02 06/05/13 2ndly - LJZTT 23:44:47 06/04/13 nope. he's actually crazy. - Antihero 18:38:38 06/03/13 Re: but, but, I thought, Obama fixed all that.....right??? - ltullos 21:58:02 06/02/13 I think it'd be appropriate... - Z DNA 08:41:34 06/03/13 As an example of Obama-hating ......... Really, just stop. (n/m) - zellamay 22:59:27 06/02/13 not hating any person, just pointing out the lie when the - LJZTT 09:23:49 06/03/13 "Obama-hating" is a term coined to describe the current - zellamay 09:47:07 06/03/13 actually this person's tragedy is exactly what I was - LJZTT 10:05:44 06/03/13 it hasn't kicked in yet,otherwise it would have been avoided (n/m) - Ahmed (NoVA) 14:02:23 06/03/13 of course it hasn't....stay tuned for the new excuses AFTER - LJZTT 15:32:44 06/03/13 So when it "kicks in", all good ole Dougie has to do is go - LJZTT 15:45:06 06/03/13 Re: So when it "kicks in", all good ole Dougie has to do is go - njz 16:56:05 06/03/13 lol. so will you (n/m) - Ahmed (NoVA) 18:13:35 06/03/13 I got 11 years of it, nothing new to me. It's the rest of - LJZTT 22:42:47 06/03/13 lol (n/m) - Ahmed (NoVA) 07:05:16 06/04/13 feel lucky you can still "lol" - LJZTT 15:19:01 06/04/13 dude, give it a rest for once, people are sick of you - Ahmed (NoVA) 13:21:43 06/05/13 I it wasn't for politics... - Z DNA 08:39:15 06/03/13 and others wouldnt be facing exhorbitant prices for medical - LJZTT 09:02:05 06/03/13 or get to hear regurgitated talking points... - Z DNA 09:30:07 06/04/13 You shouldn't talk shit about your boss. (n/m) - dpjax 09:10:24 06/03/13 not my boss (n/m) - LJZTT 09:22:28 06/03/13 your profile says USAF, are you a civilian now? (n/m) - dpjax 10:03:11 06/03/13 guilty as charged...failure to update profile in 1st degree - LJZTT 13:46:31 06/03/13 Wow! What happened to you? (n/m) - OverZealous (CT) 20:20:40 06/03/13 been there, done that, saw more than enough to convince - LJZTT 22:40:40 06/03/13 Are you back home? (n/m) - njz 14:37:38 06/03/13 I find myself asking the same question (n/m) - LJZTT 15:42:17 06/03/13 um, I'm still paying out of pocket for a single hospital - TriniTT 21:51:35 06/02/13 That's because Americans have allowed the medical industry - Aqualung 01:15:29 06/03/13 Sad but true, get the best treatment at any cost when a - RAGTPZ 01:27:56 06/03/13 Lol at "allowed" (n/m) - TriniTT 03:45:07 06/03/13 In some ways, it is their own fault. The litigious nature - MixManMash 04:31:44 06/03/13 Yep. They aren't raising their costs for the heck of it. - Agent X 06:51:24 06/03/13 Eh that's not even really the issue. - TriniTT 07:18:55 06/03/13 and how does any industry become inflated in such an out of - LJZTT 06:48:23 06/03/13 Problems with healthcare don't follow party lines - FuerGrissa 08:20:46 06/03/13 This is psychobabble, please stop reading the tabloids. (n/m) - TriniTT 08:50:33 06/03/13 this is sparta! <-trying to match ur well-thought response (n/m) - FuerGrissa 21:10:15 06/03/13 who said anything about any party? re-read my words - LJZTT 09:00:56 06/03/13 correct, you got it. (n/m) - maglito 10:11:07 06/03/13 that is no capitalism - LJZTT 13:11:36 06/03/13 True. With the little I know about US history and politics, - MixManMash 13:19:00 06/03/13 no one forces him to sign anything into law - LJZTT 13:29:55 06/03/13 Nice slippery slope falacy there - FuerGrissa 21:05:20 06/03/13 your analogy is misapplied - LJZTT 22:51:01 06/03/13 Nonsense. The worst Reagan legacy is the idea that - zellamay 09:59:33 06/03/13 I know what you mean. No longer the can do attitude - njz 16:50:46 06/03/13 I didn't know Montreal is City in the United States - njz 08:58:07 06/03/13 You don't need to be an American in order to be intelligent (n/m) - Aqualung 09:19:46 06/03/13 intelligent, Is that what you are? - njz 09:55:06 06/03/13 Now you tell us. (n/m) - zellamay 11:59:29 06/03/13 I dunno - ZEngineer and I once picked up a fascia in NY - spicyZ 09:31:36 06/03/13 next city over, right by Hoboken (n/m) - vorpalZ 09:45:22 06/03/13 On the flipside, LJZTT keeps saying ZCON 2013 is in Canada (n/m) - Aqualung 11:20:24 06/03/13 But if you hopped over the border illegally, you would have - ZXoltan 07:05:15 06/03/13 Actually, this is a fact. The hospital told me to apply - TriniTT 08:48:49 06/03/13 You are subsidizing the uninsured who visit the ER. - ZXoltan 09:52:46 06/03/13 and people call us a communist country... - vorpalZ 23:58:38 06/02/13 lol yes Americans everywhere are flocking to Canada for - TriniTT 07:15:00 06/03/13 My kids 1st grade teacher actually did that... - dpjax 09:04:10 06/03/13 not for healthcare, but other reasons, I know of a few just - LJZTT 09:20:33 06/03/13 you realize canada actually has laws to prevent this... - Antihero 18:40:37 06/03/13 I will tell you this in all honesty, after talking about - LJZTT 09:18:25 06/03/13 meh, 2 words: snow tires (n/m) - vorpalZ 09:46:22 06/03/13 it's not the car that is sick of the weather (n/m) - LJZTT 13:22:05 06/03/13 Move to the lower mainland in BC - Vancouver. It's not that - MixManMash 10:24:29 06/03/13 you dont understand, I'm looking for NO cold weather (n/m) - LJZTT 13:35:29 06/03/13 Cayman Islands? (n/m) - MixManMash 14:38:39 06/03/13 Mexico? (n/m) - Aqualung 15:18:48 06/03/13 que? (n/m) - LJZTT 15:34:21 06/03/13 Re: Really guys... - not 4 sale 00:36:19 06/03/13 Disdain for Obama does not invalidate disdain for Bush. - TriniTT 03:52:07 06/03/13 Right on. It's not about one president, it's about a system - zellamay 10:06:19 06/03/13 and yet you still serve as a Squealer for people who have - LJZTT 13:40:48 06/03/13 Takes a while to fix what one President effectively messed - MixManMash 04:36:15 06/03/13 Please don't say that... we don't need a 3rd term! Lol (n/m) - Piranha 05:15:25 06/03/13 this has little to nothing to do with party politics and - LJZTT 09:27:41 06/03/13 More than a while. The Bush damage will last for decades, - zellamay 10:09:40 06/03/13 You (American public) elected him twice... So much for - MixManMash 10:20:49 06/03/13 If there was a third option, a compromise of both parties - BigTDogg (MA) 11:18:11 06/03/13 I was talking about electing Bush twice. - MixManMash 12:56:58 06/03/13 Thanks for the laugh. I too was determined not to be - zellamay 13:30:14 06/03/13 He only won one election. - Aqualung 11:27:57 06/03/13 in other words a scumbag beat other scumbags at their - LJZTT 13:37:59 06/03/13 oh please the "bush damage" is childs play relative to - LJZTT 10:35:17 06/03/13 +1 (n/m) - TheMarlin (MidTN) 12:19:09 06/03/13 He did start the downward trend. (n/m) - MixManMash 12:59:22 06/03/13 lol says who?? - LJZTT 13:12:29 06/03/13 True. I guess he assisted in accelerating it. (n/m) - MixManMash 13:16:58 06/03/13 which has exactly ZERO to do with this deplorable healthcare - LJZTT 13:28:13 06/03/13 Please, just read. Nothing compares to the costs of the - zellamay 13:38:01 06/03/13 This. (n/m) - MixManMash 15:32:30 06/03/13 Yep. Remember the good ole days when Clinton had nothing - ConVerTT 18:27:39 06/03/13 "HAD" nothing to do? or "DID" nothing? - LJZTT 23:03:59 06/03/13 Look at the bright side...post 9/11 you - ConVerTT 23:26:30 06/03/13 Whew, it just gets worse and worse. You're making - zellamay 00:03:23 06/04/13 only thing getting worse is watching you dig in and ignore - LJZTT 15:42:46 06/04/13 Well, you've done it again. This hateful nonsensical - zellamay 02:20:58 06/05/13 Look at the bright side...post 9/11 you - ConVerTT 09:16:35 06/04/13 weird when I think of the late 90's all I think of is the - LJZTT 15:58:51 06/04/13 lol (n/m) - Ahmed (NoVA) 14:03:40 06/03/13 +2 x 10 ^ 1000000 (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 03:10:32 06/04/13 +2 x 10 ^ 1000000 (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 03:13:02 06/04/13 Respect is earned, not given because of your rank or - njz 16:16:40 06/03/13 Hope Doug has a speedy recovery (n/m) - FuerGrissa 07:57:11 06/03/13 The guy is only asking to help not demanding it. - CmyZ 09:54:31 06/03/13 Hope Doug gets well soon. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:04:21 06/03/13 Medical costs wouldn't be a problem - Shiers69 11:08:55 06/03/13 sums it up 100% on all accounts, get well soon Doug (n/m) - LJZTT 15:35:54 06/03/13 agreed - aliaZ 16:50:05 06/03/13
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