Subject	Right on. It's not about one president, it's about a system
Posted by	zellamay on June 03, 2013 at 10:06 AM
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In Reply To	Disdain for Obama does not invalidate disdain for Bush. posted by TriniTT on June 03, 2013 at 03:52 AM
Message	in which money, thus the rich and large corporations, are taking (have taken?) control of our government. We can take it back. History tells us that every nation has had a struggle between the few who want to stay rich and control, and the masses. We have the best system ever devised to make a balance, but we have to participate, we have educate ourselves, we have be willing to give some time and energy to make it work.
Follow Ups	Fellow Z enthuasist in need of our help - ltullos 21:24:50 06/02/13 but, but, I thought, Obama fixed all that.....right??? - LJZTT 21:37:31 06/02/13 Jesus dude, give it a rest once and a while - Broke_as_**** 21:48:46 06/02/13 *once in a while - TriniTT 21:55:46 06/02/13 Spot on ^^^ (n/m) - Red Hawk (CO) 22:04:58 06/02/13 Wait till 2014 when the shit hits the fan. - njz 22:11:05 06/02/13 I cannot wait until everyone knows what it is like 1st hand - LJZTT 09:10:29 06/03/13 They may not call it what it is, but this tells it all - njz 11:32:53 06/03/13 That's so twisted I thought for sure it was sarcasm. (n/m) - Evan(CA) 00:20:45 06/03/13 Except it's not sarcasm. It's extreme Right Winged thinking. (n/m) - Aqualung 01:10:55 06/03/13 More like "against big government" thinking - TriniTT 04:10:43 06/03/13 Sad you feel that way, but mindsets like yours got us here. (n/m) - TriniTT 07:17:31 06/03/13 Everyone chips in for the police, firemen, roads etc why not - Evan(CA) 18:32:42 06/03/13 last I checked those are all local government institutions, - LJZTT 16:19:23 06/04/13 You are always complainging about government waste yet you - Evan(CA) 17:02:36 06/04/13 what are you, 17 years old? - LJZTT 22:20:19 06/04/13 then again I wouldnt expect someone from CA to have the - LJZTT 22:23:39 06/04/13 They have gone far beyond their constitional rights in so - Evan(CA) 22:57:34 06/04/13 Ron Paul is the last statesman - LJZTT 23:34:59 06/04/13 oh and you might want to start getting your "info" from - LJZTT 23:59:41 06/04/13 You're right, he got approval from congress by him and his - Evan(CA) 00:40:18 06/05/13 hit the nail right on the head (n/m) - Ahmed (NoVA) 13:27:48 06/05/13 Do you really think spending 700b a year murdering people - Evan(CA) 22:46:47 06/04/13 there is no discussing anything with you if you honestly - LJZTT 23:38:34 06/04/13 Of course that wasn't the goal but that is what happened. - Evan(CA) 00:05:02 06/05/13 2ndly - LJZTT 23:44:47 06/04/13 nope. he's actually crazy. - Antihero 18:38:38 06/03/13 Re: but, but, I thought, Obama fixed all that.....right??? - ltullos 21:58:02 06/02/13 I think it'd be appropriate... - Z DNA 08:41:34 06/03/13 As an example of Obama-hating ......... Really, just stop. (n/m) - zellamay 22:59:27 06/02/13 not hating any person, just pointing out the lie when the - LJZTT 09:23:49 06/03/13 "Obama-hating" is a term coined to describe the current - zellamay 09:47:07 06/03/13 actually this person's tragedy is exactly what I was - LJZTT 10:05:44 06/03/13 it hasn't kicked in yet,otherwise it would have been avoided (n/m) - Ahmed (NoVA) 14:02:23 06/03/13 of course it hasn't....stay tuned for the new excuses AFTER - LJZTT 15:32:44 06/03/13 So when it "kicks in", all good ole Dougie has to do is go - LJZTT 15:45:06 06/03/13 Re: So when it "kicks in", all good ole Dougie has to do is go - njz 16:56:05 06/03/13 lol. so will you (n/m) - Ahmed (NoVA) 18:13:35 06/03/13 I got 11 years of it, nothing new to me. It's the rest of - LJZTT 22:42:47 06/03/13 lol (n/m) - Ahmed (NoVA) 07:05:16 06/04/13 feel lucky you can still "lol" - LJZTT 15:19:01 06/04/13 dude, give it a rest for once, people are sick of you - Ahmed (NoVA) 13:21:43 06/05/13 I it wasn't for politics... - Z DNA 08:39:15 06/03/13 and others wouldnt be facing exhorbitant prices for medical - LJZTT 09:02:05 06/03/13 or get to hear regurgitated talking points... - Z DNA 09:30:07 06/04/13 You shouldn't talk shit about your boss. (n/m) - dpjax 09:10:24 06/03/13 not my boss (n/m) - LJZTT 09:22:28 06/03/13 your profile says USAF, are you a civilian now? (n/m) - dpjax 10:03:11 06/03/13 guilty as charged...failure to update profile in 1st degree - LJZTT 13:46:31 06/03/13 Wow! What happened to you? (n/m) - OverZealous (CT) 20:20:40 06/03/13 been there, done that, saw more than enough to convince - LJZTT 22:40:40 06/03/13 Are you back home? (n/m) - njz 14:37:38 06/03/13 I find myself asking the same question (n/m) - LJZTT 15:42:17 06/03/13 um, I'm still paying out of pocket for a single hospital - TriniTT 21:51:35 06/02/13 That's because Americans have allowed the medical industry - Aqualung 01:15:29 06/03/13 Sad but true, get the best treatment at any cost when a - RAGTPZ 01:27:56 06/03/13 Lol at "allowed" (n/m) - TriniTT 03:45:07 06/03/13 In some ways, it is their own fault. The litigious nature - MixManMash 04:31:44 06/03/13 Yep. They aren't raising their costs for the heck of it. - Agent X 06:51:24 06/03/13 Eh that's not even really the issue. - TriniTT 07:18:55 06/03/13 and how does any industry become inflated in such an out of - LJZTT 06:48:23 06/03/13 Problems with healthcare don't follow party lines - FuerGrissa 08:20:46 06/03/13 This is psychobabble, please stop reading the tabloids. (n/m) - TriniTT 08:50:33 06/03/13 this is sparta! <-trying to match ur well-thought response (n/m) - FuerGrissa 21:10:15 06/03/13 who said anything about any party? re-read my words - LJZTT 09:00:56 06/03/13 correct, you got it. (n/m) - maglito 10:11:07 06/03/13 that is no capitalism - LJZTT 13:11:36 06/03/13 True. With the little I know about US history and politics, - MixManMash 13:19:00 06/03/13 no one forces him to sign anything into law - LJZTT 13:29:55 06/03/13 Nice slippery slope falacy there - FuerGrissa 21:05:20 06/03/13 your analogy is misapplied - LJZTT 22:51:01 06/03/13 Nonsense. The worst Reagan legacy is the idea that - zellamay 09:59:33 06/03/13 I know what you mean. No longer the can do attitude - njz 16:50:46 06/03/13 I didn't know Montreal is City in the United States - njz 08:58:07 06/03/13 You don't need to be an American in order to be intelligent (n/m) - Aqualung 09:19:46 06/03/13 intelligent, Is that what you are? - njz 09:55:06 06/03/13 Now you tell us. (n/m) - zellamay 11:59:29 06/03/13 I dunno - ZEngineer and I once picked up a fascia in NY - spicyZ 09:31:36 06/03/13 next city over, right by Hoboken (n/m) - vorpalZ 09:45:22 06/03/13 On the flipside, LJZTT keeps saying ZCON 2013 is in Canada (n/m) - Aqualung 11:20:24 06/03/13 But if you hopped over the border illegally, you would have - ZXoltan 07:05:15 06/03/13 Actually, this is a fact. The hospital told me to apply - TriniTT 08:48:49 06/03/13 You are subsidizing the uninsured who visit the ER. - ZXoltan 09:52:46 06/03/13 and people call us a communist country... - vorpalZ 23:58:38 06/02/13 lol yes Americans everywhere are flocking to Canada for - TriniTT 07:15:00 06/03/13 My kids 1st grade teacher actually did that... - dpjax 09:04:10 06/03/13 not for healthcare, but other reasons, I know of a few just - LJZTT 09:20:33 06/03/13 you realize canada actually has laws to prevent this... - Antihero 18:40:37 06/03/13 I will tell you this in all honesty, after talking about - LJZTT 09:18:25 06/03/13 meh, 2 words: snow tires (n/m) - vorpalZ 09:46:22 06/03/13 it's not the car that is sick of the weather (n/m) - LJZTT 13:22:05 06/03/13 Move to the lower mainland in BC - Vancouver. It's not that - MixManMash 10:24:29 06/03/13 you dont understand, I'm looking for NO cold weather (n/m) - LJZTT 13:35:29 06/03/13 Cayman Islands? (n/m) - MixManMash 14:38:39 06/03/13 Mexico? (n/m) - Aqualung 15:18:48 06/03/13 que? (n/m) - LJZTT 15:34:21 06/03/13 Re: Really guys... - not 4 sale 00:36:19 06/03/13 Disdain for Obama does not invalidate disdain for Bush. - TriniTT 03:52:07 06/03/13 Right on. It's not about one president, it's about a system - zellamay 10:06:19 06/03/13 and yet you still serve as a Squealer for people who have - LJZTT 13:40:48 06/03/13 Takes a while to fix what one President effectively messed - MixManMash 04:36:15 06/03/13 Please don't say that... we don't need a 3rd term! Lol (n/m) - Piranha 05:15:25 06/03/13 this has little to nothing to do with party politics and - LJZTT 09:27:41 06/03/13 More than a while. The Bush damage will last for decades, - zellamay 10:09:40 06/03/13 You (American public) elected him twice... So much for - MixManMash 10:20:49 06/03/13 If there was a third option, a compromise of both parties - BigTDogg (MA) 11:18:11 06/03/13 I was talking about electing Bush twice. - MixManMash 12:56:58 06/03/13 Thanks for the laugh. I too was determined not to be - zellamay 13:30:14 06/03/13 He only won one election. - Aqualung 11:27:57 06/03/13 in other words a scumbag beat other scumbags at their - LJZTT 13:37:59 06/03/13 oh please the "bush damage" is childs play relative to - LJZTT 10:35:17 06/03/13 +1 (n/m) - TheMarlin (MidTN) 12:19:09 06/03/13 He did start the downward trend. (n/m) - MixManMash 12:59:22 06/03/13 lol says who?? - LJZTT 13:12:29 06/03/13 True. I guess he assisted in accelerating it. (n/m) - MixManMash 13:16:58 06/03/13 which has exactly ZERO to do with this deplorable healthcare - LJZTT 13:28:13 06/03/13 Please, just read. Nothing compares to the costs of the - zellamay 13:38:01 06/03/13 This. (n/m) - MixManMash 15:32:30 06/03/13 Yep. Remember the good ole days when Clinton had nothing - ConVerTT 18:27:39 06/03/13 "HAD" nothing to do? or "DID" nothing? - LJZTT 23:03:59 06/03/13 Look at the bright side...post 9/11 you - ConVerTT 23:26:30 06/03/13 Whew, it just gets worse and worse. You're making - zellamay 00:03:23 06/04/13 only thing getting worse is watching you dig in and ignore - LJZTT 15:42:46 06/04/13 Well, you've done it again. This hateful nonsensical - zellamay 02:20:58 06/05/13 Look at the bright side...post 9/11 you - ConVerTT 09:16:35 06/04/13 weird when I think of the late 90's all I think of is the - LJZTT 15:58:51 06/04/13 lol (n/m) - Ahmed (NoVA) 14:03:40 06/03/13 +2 x 10 ^ 1000000 (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 03:10:32 06/04/13 +2 x 10 ^ 1000000 (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 03:13:02 06/04/13 Respect is earned, not given because of your rank or - njz 16:16:40 06/03/13 Hope Doug has a speedy recovery (n/m) - FuerGrissa 07:57:11 06/03/13 The guy is only asking to help not demanding it. - CmyZ 09:54:31 06/03/13 Hope Doug gets well soon. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:04:21 06/03/13 Medical costs wouldn't be a problem - Shiers69 11:08:55 06/03/13 sums it up 100% on all accounts, get well soon Doug (n/m) - LJZTT 15:35:54 06/03/13 agreed - aliaZ 16:50:05 06/03/13
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