Subject	The issue with Mitch's builds is lack of info.
Posted by	dogpile on May 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM
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In Reply To	Mitch puts out impressive work. I have seen posted by Milo (Nismo Fiesta) on May 19, 2013 at 01:36 PM
Message	I've been on this site regularly for over a decade. I only remember seeing one (1)(a single) dyno from one of his builds, and that was a "forced" post to shut people up when people were trying to bash him. Granted I may have missed one or two dyno posts of his work, but that doesn't really disprove my point. I have nothing to gain or lose by liking/disliking IPP or EP. Hell, I asked my boss if he wanted to send some stuff to Mitch to get coated to see for myself if he lives up to the hype I've been hearing lately. I keep hearing about Mitch's high HP builds, his quality work, yada yada, so let's see some damn dynos! Seriously
Follow Ups	Anybody use ep racing? - blackice98 16:33:39 05/18/13 Why not go where there is no question: IPP is by far the - zellamay 17:14:46 05/18/13 IPP is great, but Mitch@EPR is a great builder and most of - JonnyZ(SoCal) 17:31:03 05/18/13 EP Racing can back up his product because HE builds it. - Rich@RDZ 20:04:28 05/18/13 I love all this misinformation - Kyle(Houston) 20:11:19 05/18/13 No issues whatsoever with my motor as well as two other - bbug 21:44:18 05/18/13 7 years on my IPP motor and still running strong. (n/m) - 1BADTTZ (SoCal) 01:17:24 05/19/13 engines can "blow up" for several reasons right? - LJZTT 08:53:27 05/19/13 Wow - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 09:16:08 05/19/13 Thanks Greg for the first hand knowledge (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 09:35:22 05/19/13 SZ are some of the best tuners on the planet - Rich@RDZ 22:08:55 05/19/13 My crank was so far out there is no way it was balanced. - Rich@RDZ 10:21:27 05/19/13 And those issues you had firsthand experience with, you - MixManMash 10:49:09 05/19/13 Yes contacted, offered nothing and could not - Rich@RDZ 13:47:59 05/19/13 Rich that is not true - Kyle(Houston) 14:04:33 05/19/13 You offered nothing when I called and had no built sheet for - Rich@RDZ 14:44:54 05/19/13 You skirted the question - Kyle(Houston) 14:54:11 05/19/13 Please ignore Rich, he is unreliabe & not worth the effort. - TriniTT 08:23:58 05/20/13 I don't even know you. and BS, I lost $10k IPP motors FACT!! - Rich@RDZ 22:01:26 05/20/13 You did not offer warranty work or any other options - Rich@RDZ 22:32:58 05/20/13 Rich you still have not answered the simple questions - Kyle(Houston) 08:33:19 05/21/13 Well, I guess it just didn't happen cause you said so - Rich@RDZ 16:18:34 05/21/13 Both are very accomplished builders. Nuff said. (n/m) - Milo (Nismo Fiesta) 13:38:12 05/19/13 2nd (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 14:02:14 05/19/13 Re: Why not go where there is no question: IPP is by far the - blackice98 18:11:23 05/18/13 Re: Re: Why not go where there is no question: IPP is by far the - blackice98 18:14:50 05/18/13 Where did you read that? (n/m) - zellamay 18:26:35 05/18/13 here - aliaZ 18:30:59 05/18/13 Re: Re: Why not go where there is no question: IPP is by far the - blackice98 18:41:50 05/18/13 maybe he can fill in but i dont see how porting an oil pump - Dane (Houston) 02:31:47 05/19/13 pfft...no question? - aliaZ 18:41:08 05/18/13 That is 100% not true - Kyle(Houston) 20:02:11 05/18/13 I'm not starting any rumors... - aliaZ 00:46:46 05/19/13 Here is exactly what you said - Kyle(Houston) 07:18:59 05/19/13 What I said was exactly what I was told - aliaZ 09:45:24 05/19/13 AND that is my point EXACTLY!! - Kyle(Houston) 09:51:13 05/19/13 Unfortunately, you were victim of the telephone game. - MixManMash 09:51:49 05/19/13 Second, you may have received speculation than fact. - MixManMash 09:55:30 05/19/13 maybe so - aliaZ 10:23:25 05/19/13 Exactly. If the customer wanted to post, they would have. (n/m) - MixManMash 10:35:49 05/19/13 have you bought an engine from kyle and had it blow up - maglito 11:37:26 05/19/13 I have a an IPP shortblock. 10000kms and no issues so far. - MixManMash 11:57:47 05/19/13 The 2nd engine was later discovered to have a bunch of - maglito 12:16:13 05/19/13 This is 100% a FALSE statement - Kyle(Houston) 14:11:08 05/19/13 Incorrect!!!! - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 14:49:58 05/19/13 Again...thanks Greg for the First Hand information.. (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 14:56:14 05/19/13 thanks for setting the record straight Greg - maglito 15:32:43 05/19/13 Please STOP posting FALSE information - Kyle(Houston) 15:45:28 05/19/13 Starting to stink, your second hand info is very wrong - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 18:34:00 05/19/13 oops (n/m) - aliaZ 16:20:02 05/19/13 Yeah F'ing Oops - Kyle(Houston) 16:29:47 05/19/13 not sure what I can say at this point - aliaZ 16:51:43 05/19/13 Just curious, are you referring to your SGP engine - Deathproof Z32 12:53:44 05/19/13 Yes, I bought it from Kyle while he was working there - maglito 13:24:02 05/19/13 Again a bunch of FALSE information - Kyle(Houston) 14:17:21 05/19/13 There is nothing false about what I said here. - maglito 14:35:36 05/19/13 That certainly looks like the front area - Kyle(Houston) 14:49:56 05/19/13 yup I waited until someone I knew had a similar problem - maglito 15:36:19 05/19/13 Please STOP - Kyle(Houston) 15:48:45 05/19/13 OK - maglito 16:29:59 05/19/13 looks like i was fed wrong info - aliaZ 16:31:21 05/19/13 There's some good products available at your local drug - MixManMash 22:50:25 05/19/13 I should have questioned this second hand info - aliaZ 05:51:22 05/20/13 Here is what I do not understand - Kyle(Houston) 08:49:54 05/20/13 This is for you :) - Aqualung 12:50:39 05/21/13 Stick with Mitch. (n/m) - Z32TT-R 18:32:44 05/18/13 Go with EP .. - KongZTT GT28RS MD 20:16:40 05/18/13 Troll much lately? (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 20:33:31 05/18/13 Yes, there a few things wrong with this whole thread. - zellamay 21:52:18 05/18/13 not advertising, seeking advise - blackice98 23:12:47 05/18/13 1 more thing - blackice98 23:26:05 05/18/13 You were given advice on 3ZC about this. - BoneZ (MD) 00:31:12 05/19/13 No rush. Biased info. - blackice98 01:03:17 05/19/13 OK then - You seem to have all the info that you need then. - BoneZ (MD) 01:10:55 05/19/13 look you are new.... - LJZTT 08:33:06 05/19/13 The owner of 3zc absolutely hates mitch for some reason. - michaell32 (FL) 09:10:34 05/19/13 here is what is troubling... - aliaZ 00:34:15 05/19/13 Here is the issue - Kyle(Houston) 07:53:48 05/19/13 You people really need to post in the correct forum - vorpalZ 01:55:31 05/19/13 If you look up my past. I have never been a drama starter. - KongZTT GT28RS MD 04:44:33 05/19/13 So instead of beating around the bush - Kyle(Houston) 07:25:51 05/19/13 Kyle, I didn't post out of respect for you... - KongZTT GT28RS MD 09:37:41 05/19/13 I have sent you an Email - Kyle(Houston) 09:46:04 05/19/13 Replied via Email. (n/m) - KongZTT GT28RS MD 22:15:26 05/19/13 I'll tell my Kyle story, of going way beyond normal customer - zellamay 01:33:04 05/20/13 that is good to hear (n/m) - aliaZ 05:41:28 05/20/13 What on earth is happening? (n/m) - TriniTT 22:18:55 05/18/13 Re: What on earth is happening? - blackice98 23:21:28 05/18/13 Kyle at IPP... - Bigwill837 22:30:17 05/18/13 ep prices are quite high but he does offer some services - Dane (Houston) 02:43:31 05/19/13 Wow, how things change YET remain the same-all I can say is - ztunerz 08:45:25 05/19/13 Here is an option...If you take your heads, block, crank.. - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 11:41:31 05/19/13 I will recommend Mitch EPracing!! I had him build an - fst300zx 12:34:34 05/19/13 Thanks for the comment. I did not mean to start drama here. - blackice98 12:52:29 05/19/13 heh - exactly what I was thinking- - BoneZ (MD) 12:53:17 05/19/13 Dont be mad bro - blackice98 13:27:37 05/19/13 Incorrect!!! - BoneZ (MD) 13:44:14 05/19/13 Re: Incorrect!!! - blackice98 13:50:39 05/19/13 Should have asked that the first time around - BoneZ (MD) 14:32:28 05/19/13 Re: Should have asked that the first time around - blackice98 14:50:10 05/19/13 You asked the questions, I answered. - BoneZ (MD) 14:56:12 05/19/13 Mitch puts out impressive work. I have seen - Milo (Nismo Fiesta) 13:36:55 05/19/13 The issue with Mitch's builds is lack of info. - dogpile 13:49:40 05/19/13 Re: The issue with Mitch's builds is lack of info. - blackice98 13:56:28 05/19/13 Here. Post it here. - dogpile 14:04:06 05/19/13 Understood. Time will tell, buddy. But I am glad to see - Milo (Nismo Fiesta) 14:02:16 05/19/13 I hope it does. I'm genuinely interested to see what he can - dogpile 14:13:16 05/19/13 IPP and here is my dyno tuned by SZ to prove there is no - 5280Z_nightstalker 19:30:44 05/19/13 What is this? Beat up a Vendor month? First Ashspec gets - Gordo 93TT Daytona 21:55:25 05/19/13 Ipp- Kyle swaps Na heads with tt heads - eriksu9 10:53:35 05/20/13 Where to go to get your engine build is a good - eriksu9 11:01:01 05/20/13 I figured you would show up soon :-) - Kyle(Houston) 11:14:39 05/20/13 Lol.. Just sharing facts sir..."Slightly involved?" - eriksu9 11:28:48 05/20/13 Lets go over the facts - Kyle(Houston) 11:38:39 05/20/13 "You will make it easy for me?" - eriksu9 12:08:32 05/20/13 Yeah it was very easy - Kyle(Houston) 12:37:15 05/20/13 Heres your fish.... - eriksu9 14:20:07 05/20/13 Fishy Fishy - Kyle(Houston) 17:04:18 05/20/13 Also Its really not that I dont like you. - eriksu9 11:33:23 05/20/13 I bought a longblock from IPP- no head swap here. (n/m) - BoneZ (MD) 11:34:47 05/20/13 Interesting Link Inside - BoneZ (MD) 11:40:18 05/20/13 My IPP longblock is perfect with the correct heads - Deathproof Z32 12:21:37 05/20/13
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