Subject	EP Racing can back up his product because HE builds it.
Posted by	Rich@RDZ on May 18, 2013 at 8:04 PM
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In Reply To	IPP is great, but Mitch@EPR is a great builder and most of posted by JonnyZ(SoCal) on May 18, 2013 at 05:31 PM
Message	Lets be real here, the reason IPP is "great" in some people eyes is because HIS PRICES ARE CHEAPER. IPP does not build their motors and the guy who does doesn't do it well. The 2 motors I bought and the one my friend bought blew up and I heard 3 others blew up on the Dyno when SZ was tuning them recently. However Mitch's engine on the same Dyno that day held up just fine. Shop by price and get what you pay for.
Follow Ups	Anybody use ep racing? - blackice98 16:33:39 05/18/13 Why not go where there is no question: IPP is by far the - zellamay 17:14:46 05/18/13 IPP is great, but Mitch@EPR is a great builder and most of - JonnyZ(SoCal) 17:31:03 05/18/13 EP Racing can back up his product because HE builds it. - Rich@RDZ 20:04:28 05/18/13 I love all this misinformation - Kyle(Houston) 20:11:19 05/18/13 No issues whatsoever with my motor as well as two other - bbug 21:44:18 05/18/13 7 years on my IPP motor and still running strong. (n/m) - 1BADTTZ (SoCal) 01:17:24 05/19/13 engines can "blow up" for several reasons right? - LJZTT 08:53:27 05/19/13 Wow - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 09:16:08 05/19/13 Thanks Greg for the first hand knowledge (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 09:35:22 05/19/13 SZ are some of the best tuners on the planet - Rich@RDZ 22:08:55 05/19/13 My crank was so far out there is no way it was balanced. - Rich@RDZ 10:21:27 05/19/13 And those issues you had firsthand experience with, you - MixManMash 10:49:09 05/19/13 Yes contacted, offered nothing and could not - Rich@RDZ 13:47:59 05/19/13 Rich that is not true - Kyle(Houston) 14:04:33 05/19/13 You offered nothing when I called and had no built sheet for - Rich@RDZ 14:44:54 05/19/13 You skirted the question - Kyle(Houston) 14:54:11 05/19/13 Please ignore Rich, he is unreliabe & not worth the effort. - TriniTT 08:23:58 05/20/13 I don't even know you. and BS, I lost $10k IPP motors FACT!! - Rich@RDZ 22:01:26 05/20/13 You did not offer warranty work or any other options - Rich@RDZ 22:32:58 05/20/13 Rich you still have not answered the simple questions - Kyle(Houston) 08:33:19 05/21/13 Well, I guess it just didn't happen cause you said so - Rich@RDZ 16:18:34 05/21/13 Both are very accomplished builders. Nuff said. (n/m) - Milo (Nismo Fiesta) 13:38:12 05/19/13 2nd (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 14:02:14 05/19/13 Re: Why not go where there is no question: IPP is by far the - blackice98 18:11:23 05/18/13 Re: Re: Why not go where there is no question: IPP is by far the - blackice98 18:14:50 05/18/13 Where did you read that? (n/m) - zellamay 18:26:35 05/18/13 here - aliaZ 18:30:59 05/18/13 Re: Re: Why not go where there is no question: IPP is by far the - blackice98 18:41:50 05/18/13 maybe he can fill in but i dont see how porting an oil pump - Dane (Houston) 02:31:47 05/19/13 pfft...no question? - aliaZ 18:41:08 05/18/13 That is 100% not true - Kyle(Houston) 20:02:11 05/18/13 I'm not starting any rumors... - aliaZ 00:46:46 05/19/13 Here is exactly what you said - Kyle(Houston) 07:18:59 05/19/13 What I said was exactly what I was told - aliaZ 09:45:24 05/19/13 AND that is my point EXACTLY!! - Kyle(Houston) 09:51:13 05/19/13 Unfortunately, you were victim of the telephone game. - MixManMash 09:51:49 05/19/13 Second, you may have received speculation than fact. - MixManMash 09:55:30 05/19/13 maybe so - aliaZ 10:23:25 05/19/13 Exactly. If the customer wanted to post, they would have. (n/m) - MixManMash 10:35:49 05/19/13 have you bought an engine from kyle and had it blow up - maglito 11:37:26 05/19/13 I have a an IPP shortblock. 10000kms and no issues so far. - MixManMash 11:57:47 05/19/13 The 2nd engine was later discovered to have a bunch of - maglito 12:16:13 05/19/13 This is 100% a FALSE statement - Kyle(Houston) 14:11:08 05/19/13 Incorrect!!!! - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 14:49:58 05/19/13 Again...thanks Greg for the First Hand information.. (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 14:56:14 05/19/13 thanks for setting the record straight Greg - maglito 15:32:43 05/19/13 Please STOP posting FALSE information - Kyle(Houston) 15:45:28 05/19/13 Starting to stink, your second hand info is very wrong - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 18:34:00 05/19/13 oops (n/m) - aliaZ 16:20:02 05/19/13 Yeah F'ing Oops - Kyle(Houston) 16:29:47 05/19/13 not sure what I can say at this point - aliaZ 16:51:43 05/19/13 Just curious, are you referring to your SGP engine - Deathproof Z32 12:53:44 05/19/13 Yes, I bought it from Kyle while he was working there - maglito 13:24:02 05/19/13 Again a bunch of FALSE information - Kyle(Houston) 14:17:21 05/19/13 There is nothing false about what I said here. - maglito 14:35:36 05/19/13 That certainly looks like the front area - Kyle(Houston) 14:49:56 05/19/13 yup I waited until someone I knew had a similar problem - maglito 15:36:19 05/19/13 Please STOP - Kyle(Houston) 15:48:45 05/19/13 OK - maglito 16:29:59 05/19/13 looks like i was fed wrong info - aliaZ 16:31:21 05/19/13 There's some good products available at your local drug - MixManMash 22:50:25 05/19/13 I should have questioned this second hand info - aliaZ 05:51:22 05/20/13 Here is what I do not understand - Kyle(Houston) 08:49:54 05/20/13 This is for you :) - Aqualung 12:50:39 05/21/13 Stick with Mitch. (n/m) - Z32TT-R 18:32:44 05/18/13 Go with EP .. - KongZTT GT28RS MD 20:16:40 05/18/13 Troll much lately? (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 20:33:31 05/18/13 Yes, there a few things wrong with this whole thread. - zellamay 21:52:18 05/18/13 not advertising, seeking advise - blackice98 23:12:47 05/18/13 1 more thing - blackice98 23:26:05 05/18/13 You were given advice on 3ZC about this. - BoneZ (MD) 00:31:12 05/19/13 No rush. Biased info. - blackice98 01:03:17 05/19/13 OK then - You seem to have all the info that you need then. - BoneZ (MD) 01:10:55 05/19/13 look you are new.... - LJZTT 08:33:06 05/19/13 The owner of 3zc absolutely hates mitch for some reason. - michaell32 (FL) 09:10:34 05/19/13 here is what is troubling... - aliaZ 00:34:15 05/19/13 Here is the issue - Kyle(Houston) 07:53:48 05/19/13 You people really need to post in the correct forum - vorpalZ 01:55:31 05/19/13 If you look up my past. I have never been a drama starter. - KongZTT GT28RS MD 04:44:33 05/19/13 So instead of beating around the bush - Kyle(Houston) 07:25:51 05/19/13 Kyle, I didn't post out of respect for you... - KongZTT GT28RS MD 09:37:41 05/19/13 I have sent you an Email - Kyle(Houston) 09:46:04 05/19/13 Replied via Email. (n/m) - KongZTT GT28RS MD 22:15:26 05/19/13 I'll tell my Kyle story, of going way beyond normal customer - zellamay 01:33:04 05/20/13 that is good to hear (n/m) - aliaZ 05:41:28 05/20/13 What on earth is happening? (n/m) - TriniTT 22:18:55 05/18/13 Re: What on earth is happening? - blackice98 23:21:28 05/18/13 Kyle at IPP... - Bigwill837 22:30:17 05/18/13 ep prices are quite high but he does offer some services - Dane (Houston) 02:43:31 05/19/13 Wow, how things change YET remain the same-all I can say is - ztunerz 08:45:25 05/19/13 Here is an option...If you take your heads, block, crank.. - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 11:41:31 05/19/13 I will recommend Mitch EPracing!! I had him build an - fst300zx 12:34:34 05/19/13 Thanks for the comment. I did not mean to start drama here. - blackice98 12:52:29 05/19/13 heh - exactly what I was thinking- - BoneZ (MD) 12:53:17 05/19/13 Dont be mad bro - blackice98 13:27:37 05/19/13 Incorrect!!! - BoneZ (MD) 13:44:14 05/19/13 Re: Incorrect!!! - blackice98 13:50:39 05/19/13 Should have asked that the first time around - BoneZ (MD) 14:32:28 05/19/13 Re: Should have asked that the first time around - blackice98 14:50:10 05/19/13 You asked the questions, I answered. - BoneZ (MD) 14:56:12 05/19/13 Mitch puts out impressive work. I have seen - Milo (Nismo Fiesta) 13:36:55 05/19/13 The issue with Mitch's builds is lack of info. - dogpile 13:49:40 05/19/13 Re: The issue with Mitch's builds is lack of info. - blackice98 13:56:28 05/19/13 Here. Post it here. - dogpile 14:04:06 05/19/13 Understood. Time will tell, buddy. But I am glad to see - Milo (Nismo Fiesta) 14:02:16 05/19/13 I hope it does. I'm genuinely interested to see what he can - dogpile 14:13:16 05/19/13 IPP and here is my dyno tuned by SZ to prove there is no - 5280Z_nightstalker 19:30:44 05/19/13 What is this? Beat up a Vendor month? First Ashspec gets - Gordo 93TT Daytona 21:55:25 05/19/13 Ipp- Kyle swaps Na heads with tt heads - eriksu9 10:53:35 05/20/13 Where to go to get your engine build is a good - eriksu9 11:01:01 05/20/13 I figured you would show up soon :-) - Kyle(Houston) 11:14:39 05/20/13 Lol.. Just sharing facts sir..."Slightly involved?" - eriksu9 11:28:48 05/20/13 Lets go over the facts - Kyle(Houston) 11:38:39 05/20/13 "You will make it easy for me?" - eriksu9 12:08:32 05/20/13 Yeah it was very easy - Kyle(Houston) 12:37:15 05/20/13 Heres your fish.... - eriksu9 14:20:07 05/20/13 Fishy Fishy - Kyle(Houston) 17:04:18 05/20/13 Also Its really not that I dont like you. - eriksu9 11:33:23 05/20/13 I bought a longblock from IPP- no head swap here. (n/m) - BoneZ (MD) 11:34:47 05/20/13 Interesting Link Inside - BoneZ (MD) 11:40:18 05/20/13 My IPP longblock is perfect with the correct heads - Deathproof Z32 12:21:37 05/20/13
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