hassle to get prices out of those guys and their discounts are nowhere near as good as Matcos. To get Mac and SO prices I have to contact a local rep with a parts list and then he gets back to me several days later with prices. Matco has all there student discount prices listed online so I can get quotes instantly. I'm buying a couple SO products for myself but don't want to deal with the hassle of getting prices for people when 90% wont follow through.