Subject	False, the world is sugar coated enough.
Posted by	TriniTT on December 23, 2012 at 9:21 AM
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In Reply To	It's only helpful if it is well received. (n/m) posted by MixManMash on December 23, 2012 at 09:13 AM
Message	I don't need to hold anybody's hand when offering advice or assistance, I expect people to do their due diligence and search for answers and intelligence on their own. Haven't you ever seen House? Teachers rarely make progress by spoon-feeding their students. Rather, the ability to critically think and process information is stretched when someone knows there are consequences to being wrong, especially when knowing something is just a google away. There is no longer any excuse not to find answers to specific questions nowadays. But you Canucks tend to see the world a little differently. Cheers, JBrobst "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing." George Bernard Shaw
Follow Ups	winterizing your Z...do sandbags really work? - Jiro 12:37:15 12/19/12 Filling the tank minimizes risk of tank rust forming. - Bernie (NoVA) 12:40:09 12/19/12 sounds like he's going to drive it... madness! (n/m) - vorpalZ 12:51:58 12/19/12 Sandbags? I have to ask: what for? (n/m) - zellamay 13:10:54 12/19/12 Few reasons: - johnnysombrero 13:43:40 12/19/12 Whew, right over my head. I thought op was only talking - zellamay 14:15:35 12/19/12 Winterizing is for storage, not driving. - TriniTT 13:24:46 12/19/12 Winterizing can be viewed as preparingforwinterdrivingaswell - Summeronthechain (MN) 13:53:23 12/19/12 No, it isn't. My advice is sound. (n/m) - TriniTT 14:19:14 12/19/12 Wrong, and wrong. (n/m) - vorpalZ 14:27:35 12/19/12 So a 500+rwhp z is as safe as a stock fwd civic? - TriniTT 14:33:05 12/19/12 Yup. 8 years experience has proven this. - vorpalZ 14:39:59 12/19/12 I was born in Chicago and grew up in Indiana. - TriniTT 14:44:51 12/19/12 Then you should know better. (n/m) - vorpalZ 14:46:54 12/19/12 Indeed, I do. Hence my advice. (n/m) - TriniTT 14:50:19 12/19/12 lol (n/m) - vorpalZ 14:57:51 12/19/12 When Vorpalz learned to drive, ALL cars were RWD and 500 HP - ConVerTT 17:25:09 12/19/12 You have more winter experience than a Canadian? Impossible. (n/m) - Aqualung 16:43:43 12/19/12 Correct, Chicago annual average snowfall - 43 inches.... - ConVerTT 17:29:44 12/19/12 Not to mention the fact that the snow pretty much stays all - MixManMash 17:51:15 12/19/12 So help me with your math. - TriniTT 20:58:14 12/19/12 Remedial math for idiots: - vorpalZ 22:42:47 12/19/12 Reminds me of a story my mom tells: - SactoTodd 00:26:20 12/20/12 You're quite the narcissist. - TriniTT 13:44:21 12/20/12 chuckle, what part of 'shut up' do you not understand? (n/m) - vorpalZ 13:55:11 12/20/12 The part where you have this insatiable need to have the - TriniTT 14:30:44 12/20/12 You're one to talk. Countless posts where you have to get - MixManMash 19:05:42 12/20/12 I agree. I like TriniTT and all, but he's being a dick here. (n/m) - Aqualung 21:08:31 12/20/12 Boys, boys, give the man his last word! (n/m) - vorpalZ 22:34:30 12/20/12 I don't control people like a dick. - TriniTT 08:50:57 12/22/12 At least you are honest about the outspoken and the - MixManMash 09:07:13 12/22/12 Honesty is not my vice; it's tact I lack. - TriniTT 10:03:42 12/22/12 It's only helpful if it is well received. (n/m) - MixManMash 09:13:01 12/23/12 False, the world is sugar coated enough. - TriniTT 09:21:20 12/23/12 LOLs abound (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 20:20:07 12/19/12 Its possible to drive it in the snow. - ZiNnYc 19:27:59 12/19/12 RWD can be driven in winter conditions. In fact, recovery - MixManMash 07:42:12 12/20/12 lol, I wouldnt even bother trying to recover in my fwd - LJZTT 15:08:21 12/20/12 Lol. Once a FWD goes out of control, you have very little - MixManMash 19:09:50 12/20/12 Oh, plus there's less collisions in winter here than in - MixManMash 07:45:08 12/20/12 You know that the pedal on the right controls how much of - MixManMash 12:00:42 12/20/12 Yep, it's when physics kicks in that you have problems. - TriniTT 13:23:15 12/20/12 Explain your point. I find the balanced weight of the Z - MixManMash 19:07:29 12/20/12 Front heavy rwd is much harder to push than - TriniTT 08:16:47 12/22/12 Also, the z32 is hardly "balanced" for anything; it is - TriniTT 08:24:32 12/22/12 Well, I guess we have 2 very different experiences. When - MixManMash 09:04:39 12/22/12 Even my first na which was basically stock could not handle - Red Hawk (CO) 14:41:00 12/19/12 what kind of tires were you running? - vorpalZ 15:25:00 12/19/12 If you run good Blizzaks you can drive ANY car in Winter! (n/m) - The Hawk 19:03:02 12/19/12 *good snows, there are many other options besides Blizzaks (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 21:36:21 12/19/12 Yea, I know, but.... - The Hawk 09:26:34 12/20/12 You should try the Nokian Hakkapeliitta 7 (factory studded) - MixManMash 11:57:51 12/20/12 Yep, with RWD and most of us with stiffer suspension and - RZturbo 15:59:28 12/19/12 classic (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 17:44:27 12/19/12 Correct. - ConVerTT 17:38:14 12/19/12 Incorrect. (n/m) - ConVerTT 17:35:14 12/19/12 I know the car you recently bought. Wouldnt drive it in snow - ZinnZ32 13:50:41 12/19/12 know any cheap car storage places in around vancouver? (n/m) - Jiro 15:39:19 12/19/12 If I did, I wouldn'tve walked out of my house to this today! - ZinnZ32 16:37:46 12/19/12 How much experience do you have - BoneZ (MD) 13:55:47 12/19/12 i've driven stock TT's in the snow before... - Jiro 15:42:43 12/19/12 Seriously, there are way too many fun awd cars around that - Gordo 93TT Daytona 14:05:00 12/19/12 space issue... - Jiro 15:37:00 12/19/12 No Bus... Drive the Z. But swap over to winter wheels and - Gordo 93TT Daytona 15:57:46 12/19/12 Don't do it! - RobZ32 14:18:56 12/19/12 I have been driving mine this year in the snow with summer - Coldfusown 14:20:24 12/19/12 Buy some winter tires for the rear or - BoneZ (MD) 14:26:26 12/19/12 Summer tire compounds get hard as steel below certain temps. (n/m) - Gordo 93TT Daytona 16:00:04 12/19/12 Gordon, not ideal, but you think it's ok to drive - vulcanrush 21:16:29 12/19/12 Not advised (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 21:34:20 12/19/12 V. Bad idea. Summers lose all traction properties when cold (n/m) - vorpalZ 23:02:42 12/19/12 thanks Tony and Rob, blizzaks it is (n/m) - vulcanrush 08:51:48 12/20/12 Correction: Winter tires for all FOUR corners. (n/m) - Inzane 18:15:12 12/20/12 1) keep topped up because you idle & burn more in winter - vorpalZ 14:26:24 12/19/12 oh, and I doubt you'll see much snow anyway... - vorpalZ 15:48:23 12/19/12 I drove my Z around last winter, and plan to do so this - MrPulldown(Tahoe) 17:44:08 12/19/12 Keeping tank full helps in two ways. More weight - jzack 18:08:13 12/19/12 Re: winterizing your Z...do sandbags really work? - njz 19:14:30 12/19/12 IMHO, the smartest move is to store it and get a cheap - BigTDogg (MA) 20:25:18 12/19/12 2nd! As hard as it is to part with your Z, an alternate - Inzane 18:16:38 12/20/12 This thread has me convinced now, so I'm changing my advice. - TriniTT 13:36:49 12/20/12 n/a 2+2 with Blizzacks = awesome in snow, n/a vert - Brad(RI) 18:48:40 12/20/12 one winter in saint louis with my z was enough for me to - moxie (SF) 03:30:04 12/21/12
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