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Thank you, ^^^^^this is nice and simple. (n/m)
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TTZEDHEAD
on October 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM
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Also would like to add something no one has brought up
posted by TheMarlin (MidTN)
on October 17, 2012 at 05:16 PM
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Unsprung weight
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ZiNnYc
08:07:13 10/17/12
also any comments on hybrid weight (n/m)
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ZiNnYc
08:33:50 10/17/12
From my experience on bikes, lightweight wheels
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michaell32 (FL)
09:12:32 10/17/12
Empirical data > Theory.
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Antihero
09:13:45 10/17/12
This test is saying that
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ZiNnYc
09:32:27 10/17/12
which is why I didn't claim it was faster.
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Antihero
09:35:22 10/17/12
but this isnt too close to call, it did this consistently.
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ZiNnYc
09:42:14 10/17/12
lol @ calling 13.6 pounds significant on a 3600+ pound car.
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Antihero
10:09:20 10/17/12
ok, so lets extend that theory.
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ZiNnYc
10:26:20 10/17/12
Already taken into account.
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Antihero
10:37:27 10/17/12
So how about the inertia of the suspension?
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ZiNnYc
10:41:49 10/17/12
Yes (n/m)
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BigTDogg (MA)
10:51:55 10/17/12
you are still failing to see the big picture.
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Antihero
11:01:20 10/17/12
Rotating. Mass. (n/m)
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BigTDogg (MA)
11:25:36 10/17/12
and? (n/m)
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Antihero
11:27:37 10/17/12
Roll a steel wheel up a hill, then roll a plastic one. (n/m)
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BigTDogg (MA)
13:49:50 10/17/12
chaining the wheel to 3500 pounds of steel changes things (n/m)
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Antihero
16:31:28 10/17/12
Okey Dokey I guess I'll return my lightweight flywheel,
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Zvil
16:51:22 10/17/12
Not really, but I'm not one to yell at a wall (n/m)
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BigTDogg (MA)
16:52:52 10/17/12
Point taken. (n/m)
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TriniTT
22:05:54 10/17/12
You are failing to understand physics.
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TriniTT
12:18:47 10/17/12
accelerating 3600 pounds forward is what your engine's doing
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Antihero
13:53:20 10/17/12
Do me a favor and just try it.
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TriniTT
22:20:55 10/17/12
2nd. It was a night and day difference between my curb
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MixManMash
23:54:47 10/17/12
3rd, 17"Rpf1s w/r888s
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TTZEDHEAD
07:07:48 10/18/12
Physics: at 100 mph, the kinetic energy of the wheels
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zellamay
15:05:17 10/17/12
Or the other conclusion..
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Antihero
10:13:08 10/17/12
Don't get into it with Antihero, he doesn't understand
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TriniTT
10:49:04 10/17/12
Actual heavy wheels like the 21 pound fn01RC's that won?
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Antihero
11:06:01 10/17/12
I'm done arguing with you, you're speaking authoritatively
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TriniTT
12:10:31 10/17/12
There's really two separate things going on here.
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TheMarlin (MidTN)
12:43:22 10/17/12
Absolutely agree, great points there. (n/m)
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TriniTT
13:02:03 10/17/12
Well, Rick is a pretty smart guy.
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ZiNnYc
18:55:48 10/17/12
you seem to like the maths
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BlackholeZ
17:14:53 10/18/12
My NA felt much more peppy when I switched to iForged 18's
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KongZTT GT28RS MD
09:40:22 10/17/12
I believe the feel is a separate argument
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Antihero
09:44:57 10/17/12
FWIW.. the car felt much quicker to get up from a stop (n/m)
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KongZTT GT28RS MD
09:51:49 10/17/12
Grassroots racing mag found not benifit in laptimes...
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Hipendicular
13:41:12 10/17/12
I found this on their website.. +1 sizing..
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Hipendicular
14:14:47 10/17/12
Good info. Thanks. (n/m)
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Antihero
14:53:29 10/17/12
which issue?
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fuzzymonkey
16:12:32 10/17/12
June 2011 is one. I know there was another as well, but
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dogpile
16:47:20 10/17/12
Here's one scan from the mag..
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Hipendicular
17:31:46 10/17/12
Not to argue, but .09s in auto-x has been the difference
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dogpile
17:44:29 10/17/12
But even GRR mag said it was not conclusive.. (n/m)
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Hipendicular
12:40:29 10/18/12
Right, I agree. But saying .09 seconds in a competitive
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dogpile
14:18:05 10/18/12
Tire weight made a bigger dif..
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Hipendicular
17:33:29 10/17/12
Wider tire was slower..
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Hipendicular
17:41:20 10/17/12
* tire size, not weight alone
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dogpile
17:48:04 10/17/12
Scan part two
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Hipendicular
17:35:04 10/17/12
Dyno results
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Hipendicular
17:36:41 10/17/12
my neck hurts
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fuzzymonkey
17:55:36 10/17/12
June 2011's Project MX5 article. (n/m)
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dogpile
17:57:39 10/17/12
its funny how everyone goes on about wheel weight but noone
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ztunerz
11:31:45 10/17/12
I was just reading some posts regarding tire weight the othe
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Haasz32
11:47:48 10/17/12
I commented on tire weight as well.
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TriniTT
12:12:16 10/17/12
yeah me too - toyo t1r were and contis are typically
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ztunerz
12:16:50 10/17/12
For those concerned with weight:
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Antihero
11:41:00 10/17/12
I agree with you, Rick, the people who actually have the
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Jeffblue
12:50:31 10/17/12
Driver skill is a variable that, while important,
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ZiNnYc
14:07:07 10/17/12
So basically you are just arguing to argue?
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Antihero
14:22:59 10/17/12
Whos arguing?
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ZiNnYc
14:30:55 10/17/12
The way I live is...
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Antihero
14:51:53 10/17/12
yes, and then he's going to draw some sort of conclusion
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Jeffblue
15:29:52 10/17/12
too late (n/m)
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Jeffblue
15:30:42 10/17/12
very clever, albeit irrelevant response again. (n/m)
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ZiNnYc
19:07:25 10/17/12
Thats reasonable.
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ZiNnYc
14:28:27 10/17/12
Mod for a purpose.
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Antihero
14:47:03 10/17/12
Agree.
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ZiNnYc
15:25:14 10/17/12
When someone claims they bought heavier wheels/brakes/susp
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Jeffblue
15:37:49 10/17/12
Jeffrey, this all started with me posing a question
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ZiNnYc
19:11:09 10/17/12
Is there tension in NY (n/m)
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ali300zx
12:14:51 10/18/12
AMEN! (n/m)
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SimaYi
16:03:46 10/17/12
*popcorn* (n/m)
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fuzzymonkey
14:45:29 10/17/12
Also would like to add something no one has brought up
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TheMarlin (MidTN)
17:16:24 10/17/12
Thank you, ^^^^^this is nice and simple. (n/m) -
TTZEDHEAD
19:29:31 10/17/12
so you are saying...
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Antihero
20:36:13 10/17/12
Don't know what your problem is
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TheMarlin (MidTN)
22:07:41 10/17/12
Face palm (n/m)
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TTZEDHEAD
06:07:36 10/18/12
lacks industry backing
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Adam (NoVA)
11:59:57 10/18/12
not to nitpick
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ZiNnYc
19:45:24 10/17/12
and also this
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ZiNnYc
19:51:59 10/17/12
sigh....
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Antihero
20:31:07 10/17/12
Weight isn't directly relevant to this part
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TheMarlin (MidTN)
22:18:13 10/17/12
agreed.... but
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Antihero
22:34:36 10/17/12
Right. Very rough math: an 18" wheel has to be 75%
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zellamay
11:58:29 10/18/12
Can't compare flywheel weight to wheel weight, because
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zellamay
11:47:29 10/18/12
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