Subject	I get a little annoyed driving new bmw's or other new cars
Posted by	Ashman2k2 on February 13, 2012 at 11:27 AM
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In Reply To	Always wondered how they get the brakes so tight on the BMWs posted by ZXoltan on February 13, 2012 at 07:05 AM
Message	sometimes because the brakes are so touchy. You are just feeling the mechanical advantage or greater assist provided by the hydraulic system or in other words the sizing of the master cylinder to caliper cylinder ratios...so for the same effective pressure you apply with you foot to stop in a Z, the BMW applies more clamping force to the pads, therefore giving the driver the feel that the brakes are very powerful..but then modulating the brake pressure becomes much more delicate and annoying. The brakes are good in a bmw though since the rotors have more thermal mass to handle the heat generated during braking...but you can still easily fade stock bmw brakes due to the properties of the pad if you wanted to...its really not that complicated.
Follow Ups	Goodbye Z, Hello M3 - GodZilla (KY) 19:41:05 02/12/12 Betrayal. - Russell.DiVittorio 19:47:10 02/12/12 That's a nice ride, congrats (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 20:15:10 02/12/12 Nice whip. Good luck to ya! (n/m) - Drk93TT 20:24:13 02/12/12 vtd -_- - mikehawkhertz 20:40:10 02/12/12 Beautiful. (n/m) - SilverTwin(OH) 20:52:41 02/12/12 Thanks Tim. You guys dont work on BMW's, do you? (n/m) - GodZilla (KY) 10:59:56 02/13/12 Drove my friends M5 3 days ago and yes Z brakes suck lol. - new2boost 00:04:35 02/13/12 Nice M3 Brian...Brakes solved, installing 350Z track rotors - MidLifeZ (DFW) 06:28:09 02/13/12 Good for you. That would have been my next upgrade - GodZilla (KY) 10:56:46 02/13/12 Congrats...makes me miss my e46 M3 (n/m) - GeneZ32 (Las Vegas) 02:30:00 02/13/12 Cool car! - tumevain 03:43:01 02/13/12 Nice, enjoy. PS in 20 years your M3 brake will also feel bad (n/m) - njz 06:56:46 02/13/12 Well, possibly, but.... - GodZilla (KY) 10:58:44 02/13/12 Always wondered how they get the brakes so tight on the BMWs - ZXoltan 07:05:06 02/13/12 Because the rotors wear at the same rate as the pads. - MixManMash 08:42:22 02/13/12 Both MB and BMW use ceramic pads also. - new2boost 10:37:52 02/13/12 They just debuted carbon fiber ceramic rotors for the - GodZilla (KY) 12:03:45 02/13/12 You've never driven a Z with Brembo calipers or better. - TriniTT 10:54:13 02/13/12 I get a little annoyed driving new bmw's or other new cars - Ashman2k2 11:27:45 02/13/12 That cylinder ratio must be what I was feeling - ZXoltan 12:08:21 02/13/12 I prefer having proper modulation, not an on/off switch (n/m) - ZiNnYc 11:32:23 02/13/12 M3s are great, and gorgeous color (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 08:33:08 02/13/12 Nice purchase. (I love the brakes on my E90) (n/m) - Inzane 11:51:44 02/13/12 I would have kept the Z (n/m) - FairladyProject93 12:02:16 02/13/12 What wing is that? Looks a little bigger than stock. I may - SupersportZX 15:33:01 02/13/12 Stillen urethane, no longer made, uber hard to find.. (n/m) - MidLifeZ (DFW) 16:47:44 02/13/12 1 comes up for sale every 4-6 months or so... - Antihero 09:11:59 02/14/12 dont get me wrong, its a nice car, but not as cool as the - Rogy 18:50:26 02/13/12
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