Subject	It goes both ways.
Posted by	ZiNnYc on December 09, 2010 at 4:49 PM
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In Reply To	The catch..... posted by ztunerz on December 09, 2010 at 04:33 PM
Message	Yes, the customer is paying 95 an hour for shop warranty, rent, wages, tool leases etc etc. But if its a non Z shop, what exactly is that customer paying for? non Z expertise, when the END product is EXACTLY the same. A local Z owner went to a shop this summer to get his aux fan fixed since his NA was overheating when he put the AC on. The shop "fixed" his issue, then he parked his car in front of his girlfriends house, took a shower, came out, saw this Hes STILL IN COURT. member FS Z [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/directory.aspx?forum=general&user_id=59775 ] At least with a Z owner/mechanic, you can rest assured hes SEEN the problem before, or at least knows the tools to find out the information required. Around here, as you are aware, we hold each other accountable. If you mess up something, you are held to it.
Follow Ups	How many hours for engine pull and install? - jh300zx 08:42:35 12/09/10 A shop should absolutely not take that long - ZiNnYc 08:49:57 12/09/10 You need to work for me :) (n/m) - ztunerz 10:13:52 12/09/10 Ill pull any engine any day for a free tune :) :) :) (n/m) - ZiNnYc 10:26:43 12/09/10 About 16 hours R&R then? - Obeeone 11:11:53 12/09/10 I only mentioned pulling :) - ZiNnYc 11:45:50 12/09/10 Re: I only mentioned pulling :) - Obeeone 12:41:20 12/09/10 "less than 4 hours. No air tools" LOL. video of said work - Cap927(Boston) 11:38:01 12/09/10 Have you ever pulled a VG engine in your entire life? (n/m) - ZiNnYc 11:42:44 12/09/10 Re: "less than 4 hours. No air tools" LOL. video of said work - supergoji 11:54:34 12/09/10 lmao!!!! - ZiNnYc 12:04:04 12/09/10 so are you calling everyone in this forum that has provided - Cap927(Boston) 12:05:42 12/09/10 Who has provided videos of time elapsed? - ZiNnYc 12:13:19 12/09/10 you're way below me kid and worthless of a real argument - Cap927(Boston) 12:24:23 12/09/10 Thought so. Buhbye! (n/m) - ZiNnYc 12:29:44 12/09/10 Uh..wasn't your Z already on jack stands - Ashman2k2 13:59:12 12/09/10 no replays, no wonder.. (n/m) - Halo TTZ 17:43:03 12/09/10 Re: no replays, no wonder.. - supergoji 00:55:42 12/10/10 not for these idiots :) (n/m) - ZiNnYc 03:10:49 12/10/10 Everyone knows that hippies don't use videos, silly - BoneZ 14:44:05 12/09/10 agreed, in perfect-world, or on a Z that has habitual pulls (n/m) - LJZTT 12:28:06 12/09/10 a monkey can pull an engine out, you don't even have to look - Cap927(Boston) 12:42:23 12/09/10 where can I buy said monkey? (n/m) - LJZTT 12:58:26 12/09/10 check classifieds, there are two from NY.. :) (n/m) - Cap927(Boston) 12:59:35 12/09/10 lol (n/m) - LJZTT 13:03:11 12/09/10 I need a monkey - having trouble with with speed and my old - ztunerz 13:02:18 12/09/10 they are good for massages as well.. LOL (n/m) - Cap927(Boston) 13:11:32 12/09/10 agreed. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 13:05:29 12/09/10 If it was with 2 people....that's 8 hours (n/m) - i-xclr8 12:43:51 12/09/10 How long did it take us old farts to pull my engine ? - ztunerz 13:00:03 12/09/10 nope, just much careful than monkeys. :) (n/m) - Cap927(Boston) 13:14:27 12/09/10 Repair shops go off a time standerd, not actual work time (n/m) - Halo TTZ 09:11:24 12/09/10 Actually that is a reasonable estimate - Barry(TN) 09:44:59 12/09/10 I don't disagree. (n/m) - Halo TTZ 09:59:39 12/09/10 Re: I don't disagree. - JRFITZ 10:21:15 12/09/10 Holy shit 20 hours that is insane.... Depending - John (MD) 10:00:04 12/09/10 That is a unrealistic number :) so even if they charge - ztunerz 10:17:04 12/09/10 Just going off of what I have done and I do - John (MD) 14:30:37 12/09/10 uh yeah right. quit trying to brag about your wrench turning - nissansx 10:19:41 12/09/10 not to be an ass, - ZiNnYc 10:25:37 12/09/10 no - nissansx 10:35:33 12/09/10 Actually I would love him to ship it to me I could - John (MD) 14:35:51 12/09/10 Relax buddy (n/m) - John (MD) 14:32:49 12/09/10 pass the eggnog (n/m) - nissansx 18:05:00 12/09/10 I actually made my own eggnog the other day that - John (MD) 22:51:52 12/09/10 Definitely the best part of the holidays... - BigTDogg (MA) 07:58:48 12/10/10 20 hours is the time standard - ILoveBoost 10:16:11 12/09/10 That is exactly the number used to replace the engine - zellamay 10:20:01 12/09/10 15.3 hours is standard for a straight R&R - Spddracer 10:27:08 12/09/10 Take it to a REPUTABLE Z SHOP that someone here reccommends. - CoHPhasor 10:56:59 12/09/10 Sounds like a safe estimate to me, especially if the car has - LJZTT 12:30:55 12/09/10 this is the correct answer (n/m) - Guapo 12:39:20 12/09/10 I agree as well, - TT XTZ 12:54:32 12/09/10 2nd. (n/m) - Cap927(Boston) 13:09:48 12/09/10 Hand clap. (n/m) - John@Z1 15:40:38 12/09/10 lol. ATTENTION JH300ZX. - ZiNnYc 13:25:42 12/09/10 Not to stir the hornets' nest, - TT XTZ 13:45:13 12/09/10 While I appreciate your input, - ZiNnYc 13:50:33 12/09/10 You are as welcome to advise him - TT XTZ 14:01:21 12/09/10 I guess my point is, - TT XTZ 13:51:52 12/09/10 Maybe I wasnt clear. - ZiNnYc 13:54:04 12/09/10 To name a few hickups - ztunerz 14:58:19 12/09/10 Very true, - ZiNnYc 16:27:07 12/09/10 The catch..... - ztunerz 16:33:56 12/09/10 It goes both ways. - ZiNnYc 16:49:57 12/09/10 You made my case - ztunerz 17:03:35 12/09/10 if a shadetree mechanic messed up my car, - ZiNnYc 17:11:36 12/09/10 You could but the only reason you will get a shadetree - ztunerz 22:33:40 12/09/10 lol. perhaps. - ZiNnYc 03:40:34 12/10/10 Fyi - ztunerz 16:41:21 12/09/10 Harry, 40 hours? that's 35 too long. (n/m) - Halo TTZ 17:34:43 12/09/10 I was exagerating a bit but i have added up stuff in a - ztunerz 22:49:15 12/09/10 I totally understand Harry. - Halo TTZ 22:55:32 12/09/10 you mean, you wouldn't want someone to work on your Z - LJZTT 15:41:51 12/09/10 attention jh300zx - spicyZ 14:02:01 12/09/10 Very good link. - ZiNnYc 14:11:29 12/09/10 Why not just cut to the chase.. - spicyZ 14:17:23 12/09/10 lol (n/m) - ZiNnYc 14:18:19 12/09/10 mines white - 5280Z_nightstalker 14:52:24 12/09/10 Re: mines, green - SactoTodd 15:10:24 12/09/10 Only in NY, where there is a coffee clinic on every corner - Cap927(Boston) 14:16:51 12/09/10 coffee, cocaine, - ZiNnYc 14:19:41 12/09/10 Added to the bookmark folder... (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 14:33:47 12/09/10 2nd, full of LOLz. (n/m) - Halo TTZ 14:36:52 12/09/10 Definitely, man, I see where youre coming from. - ZiNnYc 14:39:27 12/09/10 why yes i did.. - Halo TTZ 17:26:35 12/09/10 Thought so. Just wondering. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 17:39:46 12/09/10 Who did your swap? Clearly wasn't you. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 19:15:11 12/09/10 . (n/m) - ZiNnYc 20:25:42 12/09/10 . (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 20:26:21 12/09/10 dying for a response with the refreshing, huh ;) (n/m) - ZiNnYc 20:27:01 12/09/10 I think 3zc has a opening. See if they need you there. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 20:31:39 12/09/10 no reason to get mad. - ZiNnYc 20:34:12 12/09/10 I'm not mad - I'm not really even soliciting business - Bernie (NoVA) 21:13:00 12/09/10 Alldata as mentioned already quoted less time. - ZiNnYc 21:28:01 12/09/10 wat? - Halo TTZ 22:05:31 12/09/10 dammit (n/m) - ZiNnYc 22:13:49 12/09/10 "16 hours is a rushed job". ZiNnYc (n/m) - Halo TTZ 22:21:38 12/09/10 oh. thought you meant something else. carry on (n/m) - ZiNnYc 22:23:00 12/09/10 All good over here, thanks. - TT XTZ 12:49:11 12/10/10 Awesome! - ZiNnYc 13:31:41 12/10/10 Given the opportunity, - HighPsi (NorCal) 20:02:50 12/10/10 Does that make you feel better? - ZiNnYc 21:19:55 12/10/10 Re: - LJZTT 07:10:30 12/11/10 Youre an idiot. - ZiNnYc 07:43:46 12/11/10 Internet thuggin' is sirious biznass - HighPsi (NorCal) 21:57:35 12/11/10 Cuz he's the classic " One Upper" (n/m) - Halo TTZ 06:23:02 12/10/10 gotta feel bad for the NY Z'ers who have to pretend to like - LJZTT 08:31:00 12/10/10 You guys really need to get a room. so much PDA. - ZiNnYc 08:39:27 12/10/10 I'll take your word on it. (n/m) - Halo TTZ 09:15:09 12/10/10 You make me sick (n/m) - John (MD) 22:49:51 12/09/10 2nd (n/m) - ZiNnYc 03:31:59 12/10/10 Damon/Greg are going to need to upgrade servers (n/m) - LJZTT 15:45:08 12/09/10 . - ZiNnYc 16:59:10 12/09/10 IMHO, if you're pulling one engine out, and replacing it - BigTDogg (MA) 14:45:00 12/09/10 Depends - as little as 2 hrs, as high as 20 (n/m) - ztunerz 16:43:28 12/09/10
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