Subject	I see where you're going with this, but imo you reap what
Posted by	TriniTT on December 03, 2010 at 6:26 PM
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In Reply To	If you have time to read. Read it and think about it. posted by John@Z1 on December 03, 2010 at 05:59 PM
Message	you sow. Consumers need to be educated about making purchases. I'd hate to say that anyone would deserve to get burned, but I do know that if you decide to buy a rolex from a guy in an alley, you're going to have to deal with the consequences of not having done your research. Most people get burned at least once in their existence, but the smart ones are the ones who only get burned once. The more we post about big issues, the more people that are actually doing their research will know. There's no way to hold everybody's hand in this world. When it comes down to it, consumers should be educated, but the main person to blame if someone gets burned is the one practicing bad business. Period. Cheers, JBrobst, The woman with blue nuts.
Follow Ups	New AMS innovations. Sigh. Sorry Brett. - Bernie (NoVA) 13:25:39 12/03/10 He's also doing some R&D, heh, on clear timing covers too. (n/m) - Mike aka thedeadking (NoVA) 13:36:54 12/03/10 I'll beat him to that ...and if he sells them for the - ArubaDave 14:34:11 12/03/10 Just copy his... lol! (n/m) - JonnyZ(SoCal) 18:13:02 12/03/10 I would be willing to bet Vuk would sue (n/m) - czh5005 22:57:41 12/04/10 He can't; no patent, no grounds to sue. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:14:22 12/06/10 Oh, but if he tried that would be the icing on the cake (n/m) - czh5005 21:41:52 12/06/10 Oh and again... - Bernie (NoVA) 13:40:55 12/03/10 lol, logos on coin-sized plugs not visible on rear of motor - LJZTT 04:56:23 12/04/10 Idiotic. - SimaYi 13:46:16 12/03/10 At least when the parts break and fail, you don't have - Mike aka thedeadking (NoVA) 13:48:12 12/03/10 actually I think Vuk was able to source Chinese ink.. - gizmo 13:55:21 12/03/10 and I thought 3zc bashed on AMS hard, sheesh (n/m) - buzzfast 14:08:58 12/03/10 What are you talking about? What 3zc are you on? - Mike aka thedeadking (NoVA) 14:56:52 12/03/10 Erased AND thread locked. (n/m) - 300twinz (satx) 15:05:04 12/03/10 And sometimes banned. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 15:07:59 12/03/10 I was banned shortly after signing up..... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 15:26:53 12/03/10 They banned Greg D ?. (n/m) - ArubaDave 15:28:29 12/03/10 Yes Sir, It was awhile ago and I was only offering facts - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 15:42:37 12/03/10 Money over Morals wins the race. (n/m) - ni[X]it 15:53:26 12/03/10 Money over Morals Indeed (n/m) - induetime 17:11:29 12/03/10 Re: Money over Morals Indeed - bbsalexaz 21:08:35 12/03/10 I'd call it sad, not so much funny - BigTDogg (MA) 10:30:19 12/05/10 Re: Yes Sir, It was awhile ago and I was only offering facts - buzzfast 14:58:46 12/04/10 LOL! If there was ever an indication about the - Dustin 21:57:04 12/03/10 Same as VTD? (n/m) - jschrauwen 21:33:08 12/03/10 nope (n/m) - aliaZ 22:29:41 12/03/10 No. - ZiNnYc 22:30:43 12/03/10 Winner winner chicken dinner (n/m) - bstyleZ 10:47:14 12/04/10 go away troll (n/m) - nissansx 22:58:40 12/03/10 yeah, same thing.... - LJZTT 00:20:18 12/04/10 Blah Blah Blah (n/m) - HighPsi (NorCal) 09:35:32 12/04/10 Thanks for buying a HI pulley for AMS to send to Chi (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 10:04:12 12/04/10 ??? No such purchase Bernie. Who is Chi? - jschrauwen 11:18:11 12/04/10 Chi is China you fucking Brutus moron. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 21:53:59 12/04/10 I read your responses on 3ZC. - ZiNnYc 22:17:52 12/05/10 how bout we vote to ban this troll forever (n/m) - zyoulater 22:31:12 12/04/10 lol WTF are you talking about (n/m) - aliaZ 16:17:18 12/03/10 Home Page: http://www.300zxclub.com/member.php?find=lastp - Spongerider :) 17:09:26 12/03/10 lol, in bizarro world maybe (n/m) - LJZTT 23:21:06 12/03/10 lol... but it's easy to spot the junk from its black color.. (n/m) - SimaYi 14:17:04 12/03/10 This copy doesnt come with ARP bolts. - ZiNnYc 13:54:09 12/03/10 ROFL. I think keying is bad, but to get copies... - CoHPhasor 18:26:01 12/03/10 Rob & duplicate... rinse... repeat... sigh (n/m) - vorpalZ 14:25:31 12/03/10 It's now beyond me comprehension . - ArubaDave 14:37:39 12/03/10 Copied my 350Z diff bushings and endlinks too (n/m) - kuah@splparts.com 14:58:50 12/03/10 The whole web site is copied parts! They hit all of us :-( (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 15:37:33 12/03/10 I feel bad for the good Canadians out there. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 15:08:44 12/03/10 I don't wish ill on many people, but Vuk can die in a fire. - bstyleZ 15:11:18 12/03/10 Z1 and AMS use the same offshore manufacturers - ni[X]it 16:05:23 12/03/10 agreed (n/m) - LJZTT 04:37:24 12/04/10 I'm trying to mop this crap up a bit... - LitlElvis 15:20:17 12/03/10 You have mail. (n/m) - Josher 15:44:41 12/03/10 Re: I'm trying to mop this crap up a bit... - ni[X]it 15:51:16 12/03/10 First thing I thought of when I saw this thread :/ (n/m) - SeedyROM 16:59:48 12/03/10 I'm a little older and a little wiser now... - LitlElvis 20:52:18 12/03/10 Indeed. Good luck! (n/m) - SeedyROM 04:06:57 12/04/10 The reward has been taken... no more emails please :) (n/m) - LitlElvis 16:50:35 12/03/10 You may want to contact AMS and tell them to remove your - Multi_Read (MO) 19:05:41 12/03/10 wow, they don't even try to hide that it's a straight copy - Furb (NoVa) 15:20:41 12/03/10 Yup, I heard about this one through the grapevine... sigh. (n/m) - Karl (MD) 15:46:38 12/03/10 Ok i'm speaking way out of my league here but.. - fantomZ(OH) 15:59:56 12/03/10 2nd! Isn't there legal action that can be taken? - Draker (Eugene, OR) 20:51:31 12/03/10 It cost money to patent products and im just assuming - 5280Z_nightstalker 01:48:25 12/04/10 wow, i think i get it now... - ni[X]it 16:02:32 12/03/10 Their 'own' version of the maf as well - Hyjaxe 16:02:34 12/03/10 would love to see one of those ripped apart - SeanK (StL) 16:14:00 12/03/10 It is almost as if they are laughing in their customers face - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 16:07:40 12/03/10 Wow. Just Wow. (n/m) - Mr.Stacy 16:09:45 12/03/10 Surprised I don't see RameyZ idler studs on there - aliaZ 16:15:57 12/03/10 Can anyone tell me the names of the factories these parts - Multi_Read (MO) 16:31:07 12/03/10 Mentioned before... - Bernie (NoVA) 16:49:15 12/03/10 Ah, didn't see that information. Thank you Bernie. (n/m) - Multi_Read (MO) 17:42:12 12/03/10 the real tragedy is that they write a big check to the ZCCA - Adam (NoVA) 16:38:00 12/03/10 the ZCCA must ask themselves, do they want to be associated? (n/m) - SuparexTT 16:43:15 12/03/10 tt.net must ask themselves, do they want to be associated? (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 16:45:30 12/03/10 Not really. (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 17:08:23 12/03/10 when i said tt.net i meant the community as a whole... - Adam (NoVA) 17:12:59 12/03/10 I would not ask for the sponsorship again but I am - 300twinz (satx) 18:12:39 12/04/10 Is the ZCCA aware of this? (n/m) - SactoTodd 17:04:46 12/03/10 difficult question to answer - Adam (NoVA) 08:11:57 12/04/10 Yes. They are just unwilling to do anything. - Bernie (NoVA) 20:55:38 12/05/10 if I could do it over again.... (n/m) - 300twinz (satx) 17:07:47 12/03/10 yep - aliaZ 17:34:30 12/03/10 "AMS at the San Antonio ZCON was a real turnoff" - 300twinz (satx) 19:23:30 12/03/10 I didn't intend that as a jab to you :-/ (n/m) - aliaZ 19:55:45 12/03/10 no worries I did not see it as an attack. (n/m) - 300twinz (satx) 19:58:57 12/03/10 Very true... don't forget they are also big sponsors for - Piranha 18:51:19 12/03/10 "go along" to "get along" - LJZTT 00:24:05 12/04/10 ITYS - SeedyROM 17:16:08 12/03/10 Sorry Brett. It's bad news when good people that try to - induetime 17:19:11 12/03/10 Wow. I feel like crap for buying a crank pulley from them! - JonnyZ(SoCal) 17:31:31 12/03/10 That being said... does anyone wanna have fun destroying it? - JonnyZ(SoCal) 17:32:23 12/03/10 Do us all a favor? - Multi_Read (MO) 17:46:03 12/03/10 Ya, thats what I was getting at! Any suggestions on how to - JonnyZ(SoCal) 17:53:52 12/03/10 Torch & angle grinder (n/m) - ArubaDave 18:13:37 12/03/10 This comes to mind - bstyleZ 18:19:07 12/03/10 Love that movie! (n/m) - JonnyZ(SoCal) 18:30:48 12/03/10 Sledge, most definitely - Broke_as_**** 18:23:44 12/03/10 That one made me lol =] (n/m) - JonnyZ(SoCal) 18:29:16 12/03/10 Well - Broke_as_**** 18:55:45 12/03/10 Well It would seem kind of weird if I went somewhere and - JonnyZ(SoCal) 18:58:35 12/03/10 You're letting your anger bring you down to a lower level. - Multi_Read (MO) 19:59:36 12/03/10 ? - Broke_as_**** 20:07:50 12/03/10 Glad I don't get drunk with you, then. :) - Multi_Read (MO) 20:18:24 12/03/10 Hey now, I have great legs - Broke_as_**** 20:41:12 12/03/10 "Hey now, I have great legs" - Multi_Read (MO) 20:59:00 12/03/10 Mr. Hands (n/m) - ZiNnYc 22:36:49 12/03/10 Send it back for a refund. Don't throw your money away. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 10:10:46 12/04/10 If you have time to read. Read it and think about it. - John@Z1 17:59:22 12/03/10 Lol. If your point is that this 'negative advertisement' - bstyleZ 18:10:08 12/03/10 What many people don't realize - induetime 18:27:10 12/03/10 I see where you're going with this, but imo you reap what - TriniTT 18:26:35 12/03/10 Very well said. (n/m) - bstyleZ 19:04:14 12/03/10 Please, scare everyone into not talking about it. - CoHPhasor 18:59:49 12/03/10 I figured you or someone at z1 would post to protect - Spongerider :) 19:06:41 12/03/10 BAMMM You got knocked the f**k out! - Multi_Read (MO) 20:00:59 12/03/10 so you're saying we should take it in the ass without lube - aliaZ 20:05:28 12/03/10 well fortunately Z owners with brains & common sense - LJZTT 06:48:00 12/04/10 Simon is a good dude though, so I take part of that back (n/m) - LJZTT 19:40:10 12/04/10 Not all 3ZCr's are blind! - czh5005 20:46:08 12/04/10 Glad to hear! (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 17:10:46 12/05/10 This story has little to do with a tight-knit community - vorpalZ 08:34:33 12/04/10 *from Chelsea (lower Manhattan). (n/m) - ZiNnYc 12:52:53 12/04/10 oops, sorry, the rip off artist lives in Brooklyn - vorpalZ 19:37:42 12/04/10 So stop selling the garbage that cocksucker pushes! (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 21:52:49 12/04/10 There has to be something collectively we can do, right ? - whip 18:38:52 12/03/10 FYI It isn't going to stop the vendors to stop making new - ArubaDave 19:00:13 12/03/10 It actually has in the past - SeedyROM 04:13:01 12/04/10 I will never buy their knock offs. (n/m) - dpjax 18:40:52 12/03/10 He without sin cast the first stone... - tuckz32 19:37:35 12/03/10 um. wut? (n/m) - ZiNnYc 22:32:48 12/03/10 you were told wrong - Adam (NoVA) 07:46:15 12/04/10 Fixed images from OP. - ZiNnYc 23:15:08 12/03/10 Puttin this out there in case someone searches? - CoHPhasor 02:31:56 12/04/10 What a douchenozzle (n/m) - black300zx 12:57:44 12/04/10 Vuk that is - meant to post this under bernie's OP - black300zx 13:35:15 12/04/10 Ugh... those are some pretty ugly welds - will_k 13:04:29 12/04/10 What a shame. I'm glad I have the real things. - collegeboy 00:04:38 12/04/10 Absolutely disgusting. (n/m) - Inzane 00:24:24 12/04/10 Perhaps there's a way to stickie a thread at the top of each - will_k 01:38:08 12/04/10 That might be the most effective thing I heard all day (n/m) - CoHPhasor 02:32:48 12/04/10 And every other club forum. (n/m) - SuparexTT 11:42:54 12/04/10 It would be a shame if their shop burned down - The Hawk 12:18:26 12/04/10 That's F'ed up (n/m) - komplexZTT 13:49:03 12/04/10 Wow!!!!! That all bad. (n/m) - toykoz32 13:56:12 12/04/10 no surprise (n/m) - zgene4 18:57:32 12/04/10 What's wrong with them... (n/m) - BoneZ 20:41:22 12/04/10 First and foremost, they are a direct copy of my design - LitlElvis 10:42:25 12/05/10 LOL--I see how my statement was misunderstood!!! - BoneZ 15:26:23 12/06/10 Bah, figures, I take a half day on a Friday, do a pub crawl - BigTDogg (MA) 22:14:06 12/04/10 I think - team7 00:40:47 12/05/10 It's pathetic, insulting and a slap in the face. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:27:01 12/05/10 Vuk's reply on 3ZC - ArubaDave 10:38:11 12/05/10 I look forward to this debate - czh5005 10:42:59 12/05/10 Dave, could you link to Vuk's response? - LitlElvis 10:59:48 12/05/10 Re: Dave, could you link to Vuk's response? - nissansx 11:06:20 12/05/10 don't know how you stay so calm - vulcanrush 18:59:35 12/05/10 not much choice... - vorpalZ 19:08:39 12/05/10 This is what I said before some e-thug mod deleted it - BigTDogg (MA) 21:53:00 12/05/10 lol, so your were RationalRob (n/m) - czh5005 22:00:32 12/05/10 They wanted a rational discussion :-) that was my SN of - BigTDogg (MA) 22:08:31 12/05/10 the hilarious part is that by aggressively deleting - vorpalZ 22:20:49 12/05/10
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