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Posted by aliaZ on September 21, 2010 at 1:04 AM
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In Reply To Re: nice try, but that pic doesn't prove anything posted by Tech@EPR on September 19, 2010 at 09:02 PM
     
Message :when you look at a valve and the seat angle on the valve is tuliped...there isn't much variable to it other than valve float.

The wrong valve material can cause the same issues. Remember the problem with Ferrea valves years ago? And I seem to recall that you like to use a really narrow seat width? Does .005" ring a bell?

:Who else is running these cams Don? I certainly don't see anyone speaking up about them or having any form of experience with them. No one here is posting up pics to "connect the dots" to make it suit my needs. Nice try give it another try.

Could it be that they're not speaking up because they don't have any issues? Isn't it odd that nobody has chimed in and agreed with you? Why is no one else telling me that I'm full of shit?

:I'd love to see this data that you speak of on these springs using the spintron. You get NO form of data to help you configure a proper cylinder head from JWT. NONE!!!! Its just "heres the cam and this is what it is" I've spent quite a bit of time discussing things with Clark about the springs he suggests and why he runs them and it finally got narrowed down to he doesn't to run into issues with flattening the cams and breaking the cam itself.

Perhaps you should speak to someone other than Clark (no offense Clark)? Why do I always seem to get a different story than you? I remember your were certain that these mechanical cams were hydraulic profiles? Remember that?

He also mentioned "overhead valve weight" which still to this day when I go through motions and speak to leading cylinder head porters/machinists on finding better springs they all tell me the same thing I am mentioning here regarding spring rates and so forth for the VG platform. I run into issues with springs not having enough spring rate. The springs suggested are simply not enough.


Not sure what to tell you Mitch. It is simple physics. I'm baffled that you don't grasp this.


:I simply love how you continually like to flaunt personal attacks against me and then twist what I have to say as if I'm the bad guy.

Personal attacks? Any attack from me is based on your actions, not who you are.

Stop while you are ahead. You aren't an engine builder nor a machinist. You'd like to think or try to be but you simply aren't. You don't build racing engines and have no first hand experience in doing so. So respectfully I'll agree to disagree with you.

Eh, you're wrong Mitch. I've built enough engines to know that the machine shop is often the problem rather than the solution. All too often I've noticed an inverse relationship between the cockiness of the engine builder and the quality of their engines.

The truth of the matter is that anyone can build an engine provided he has good attention to detail and mechanical ability. Engine building isn't the magic you make it out to be.

:As for the oil pumps, since you say I have no data showing the improvements how can you say they make no improvements? Seems you are just as guilty but on the opposite side of the spectrum. Way to go.

How pathetic Mitch. Way to skirt around the issue. I'm not the one trying to sell product under false pretenses. The burden of proof is on you.

If you would have just sold the pumps based on what they were rather than lying about it I wouldn't have cared.

:And what about me can't be trusted Don? EVERY customer I've had and deal with with EP Racing has had nothing but good things to say.

As Ztuner pointed out, you never have any data to back yourself up. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed. In my world, data and verification testing is king, and lack of supporting data is suspect. I'm not saying you can't build engines, but honestly it isn't that difficult in my experience. The hardest part is finding a competent machine shop.

You must still be trying to push up the past to make it seem like I'm a bad guy.

What else should I push up? The future?

You can stop with all the antics Don. It simply isn't going to work. Funny though, you contact me to get work done but post up here arguing with me. Why would you ask me to do work for you but come on here arguing with me with what I have to say. Seems a bit odd to me.

Have you never been interviewed for a job? Have you noticed that I ask you how you go about doing certain things and what equipment you use? Why didn't you respond when I offered to come by and check out your shop? Hell, I figured you'd jump at the opportunity to show off. I guess I was wrong?

I regularly ping different machine shops in an effort to find out their abilities. Much like you ping Collegeboy on what I'm doing with his engine. Have you noticed that despite my inquiries, I haven't brought you any work?

:I'm so tired of arguing with you Don. Everything I've been doing for the VGs work. You for some reason have issues with what I do. For what reasons I have no clue but its getting old man. I post on real world experience....I see more from you where you post on what you've heard from others rather than what you've physically worked on and seen. Theres a big difference there. You are so quick to say "Mike Smith this and that" and so on and so forth but you have NO real world experience in building racing engines so why would anyone believe what you have to say Don?

The conclusions you draw from your "real world experiences" sometimes defy conventional wisdom, Mitch. And when you can't tell me why, what is a technically minded guy like myself supposed to think? If I don't know the answer, I'll ask someone who does. Mike Smith has never given me an answer that didn't make sense. Sorry, but I can't always say the same for you.

I tried telling you about honing pin bores and so forth and you still dismiss it like I don't know what I'm doing.

I have yet to be able to corroborate your findings on the pin bore honing. Until I do, I find it hard to believe that you know something that NO ONE ELSE knows.

Thats fine you have your thoughts on all of this and I have my ways on doing this.
:I'll end it with this. There isn't an engine out there that I've machined/built/is running that has any issue at all.

Not having any issues means what again? I recall you saying the same thing about your "High Flow" oil pumps. Again, I'm not saying that you can't build engines. But when you tell me that the valve springs are too light, and in the same thread tell me valvetrain weight doesn't matter...how in the hell does that NOT diminish your credibility?

They are doing exceptionally well and are running based on my advice. You're a smart guy Don but honestly if you don't have any personal hands on experience then how can you give testiment on what is and isnt and so forth? Don't be quick to shit on someone when you yourself dont do what they do.

Some engineers are only booksmart. I'm not one of them. If you or anyone else says something that defies conventional logic, you need to have some supporting data to keep me off your ass. It's as simple as that. You act like the engineers that design the parts that you install are all a bunch of idiots and that they're trying to deceive you. There are limitations to hands on experience if you don't know why the parts work.

Seems you are out just to hate on folks. So lets leave it at that.

I'm a nice guy, Mitch. I'm not just giving you a hard time for the hell of it
:I'm done

     
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