Subject	well...people have their allegiances
Posted by	aliaZ on September 01, 2010 at 6:43 PM
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In Reply To	True, timing is important too. I always liked his posted by Mr.Stacy on September 01, 2010 at 06:39 PM
Message	if he would have sold the manifolds on their own merits rather than attacking Mike Smith's work I don't think he would have been bashed so much Mike's manifolds vs Jon Abeler's manifolds was apples and oranges anyways. Mike Smith = bolt-on market, whereas Jon's were a niche custom fab market.
Follow Ups	more Billet Turbo info - aliaZ 12:10:18 09/01/10 There is no advantage with billet compressor wheels though - Ashman2k2 12:24:44 09/01/10 that depends - aliaZ 12:52:41 09/01/10 Well I jumped the gun - Ashman2k2 13:19:06 09/01/10 they offer billet wheels too (n/m) - aliaZ 14:16:15 09/01/10 FWIW - aliaZ 17:27:57 09/01/10 Nice! Thanks for doing the legwork - dogpile 12:49:30 09/01/10 just heard back from them - aliaZ 16:54:41 09/01/10 Sweet. Assuming they don't mean a one-time run, correct? (n/m) - dogpile 17:40:15 09/01/10 correct (n/m) - aliaZ 18:01:06 09/01/10 Ceramic balls? No advantage? I see you've never seen this. - TTZ2NV(TX) 12:58:30 09/01/10 T25 or T3 exhaust flange? (n/m) - LitlElvis 13:07:45 09/01/10 wastegated version is T28 (n/m) - aliaZ 13:11:55 09/01/10 Re: more Billet Turbo info - bajan 14:43:25 09/01/10 Any thoughts from Kyle@IPP & Greg/Seb@SpecialtyZ on this? - Shiers69 15:18:07 09/01/10 Re: more Billet Turbo info - txq45 15:29:11 09/01/10 Turbo Vendors? and billet wheels are cnc not a cast mold. - TTZ2NV(TX) 16:21:56 09/01/10 Re: Turbo Vendors? and billet wheels are cnc not a cast mold. - SimaYi 16:33:36 09/01/10 the more I dig into this the more I realize - aliaZ 17:02:22 09/01/10 everything to date has to adapted to existing parts. - SuparexTT 17:09:17 09/01/10 "adapted to existing parts" = root of the problem (n/m) - aliaZ 17:11:57 09/01/10 weren't the aebler (sp?) manifolds v-band? (n/m) - Mr.Stacy 18:15:29 09/01/10 no, they were T3 - aliaZ 18:23:53 09/01/10 True, timing is important too. I always liked his - Mr.Stacy 18:39:45 09/01/10 well...people have their allegiances - aliaZ 18:43:51 09/01/10 I am sure if you ask Pentroof they make some else full race - Carlos Ramirez 21:11:56 09/01/10 I'm sure T0M could make something that was kick ass too - aliaZ 21:52:22 09/01/10 This has always been a problem with the Z scene.. - larryb 17:41:08 09/01/10 which billet turbos are you referring to? - aliaZ 18:12:39 09/01/10 He's taking about the billet 6765 turbos - Machtavian 23:17:30 09/01/10 nice! (n/m) - aliaZ 00:05:10 09/02/10 Re: This has always been a problem with the Z scene.. - TTZ2NV(TX) 18:21:51 09/01/10 Hmm - Broke_as_**** 18:35:28 09/01/10 it doesn't help that we don't have a T3 manifold - aliaZ 18:40:26 09/01/10 Well get on it - Broke_as_**** 18:53:51 09/01/10 We do , you just won't use it (n/m) - ztunerz 19:46:49 09/01/10 really? link me (n/m) - aliaZ 20:26:52 09/01/10 Have a set of abler v3 designed for t3 housings (n/m) - ztunerz 21:53:32 09/01/10 I know you do :) (n/m) - aliaZ 22:03:22 09/01/10 You just motivated me (n/m) - ztunerz 22:07:57 09/01/10 to do what? - aliaZ 22:17:04 09/01/10 Re: it doesn't help that we don't have a T3 manifold - Seb@Specialty-Z 20:07:49 09/01/10 True that (n/m) - ztunerz 20:17:54 09/01/10 2nd.. I dont think I could improve much with my GT2860RS' - JustinSCZ32 20:27:52 09/01/10 500 ftlbs, 400 whp ? Show dyno with boost curve please (n/m) - ztunerz 22:01:22 09/01/10 quicker spool, earlier delivery, mad torque - Adam (NoVA) 20:47:26 09/01/10 then let us look to redesigning and manufacturing - Seb@Specialty-Z 21:06:59 09/01/10 Re: then let us look to redesigning and manufacturing - aliaZ 21:45:44 09/01/10 Stroking has other benefits besides just increasing - ttzcadet 21:53:37 09/01/10 you're over thinking it - aliaZ 22:02:33 09/01/10 I really think you should come visit us - Seb@Specialty-Z 23:18:27 09/01/10 I hope to take you up on that some day - aliaZ 23:28:30 09/01/10 just look to the newer Z aftermarket TT platforms - Seb@Specialty-Z 23:12:15 09/01/10 I don't think you're crazy - aliaZ 23:26:54 09/01/10 well, I can understand your point of view - aliaZ 21:22:24 09/01/10 I think the differences between T25 and T3 go beyond the - LitlElvis 21:54:55 09/01/10 I doubt the t3 market will care about bolt up stuff - ztunerz 21:57:57 09/01/10 Yup, no money = no development, the "true" innovation killer - LitlElvis 22:02:11 09/01/10 Hmm...I see plenty of innovation on your website - aliaZ 22:38:17 09/01/10 You are correct... a few I wish I had never invested in, - LitlElvis 23:21:40 09/01/10 I think the turbo positioning would need to change - Seb@Specialty-Z 23:27:25 09/01/10 from what I recall - aliaZ 23:32:08 09/01/10 Tilted to fit 3 inch dps so they would not have a sharp bend - ztunerz 23:50:30 09/01/10 Tom's building manis to fit the 35r in the stock location - Machtavian 23:33:12 09/01/10 I had to grind a lot on the block's driver side to clear my - LitlElvis 14:43:04 09/02/10 Re: You are correct... a few I wish I had never invested in, - aliaZ 00:29:01 09/02/10 I agree, it would be damn near impossible - aliaZ 23:13:36 09/01/10 I think those PE Turbos have poisoned you. (n/m) - Seb@Specialty-Z 23:19:39 09/01/10 you're probably right (n/m) - aliaZ 23:29:12 09/01/10 well duhh, the "complicated-factor" for anything going into - LJZTT 06:44:47 09/02/10 R35 GTR - Pilot.P (NZ) 07:25:37 09/02/10 relative to what though? Nothing is offered with an inline - LJZTT 07:43:30 09/02/10 I don't know if it's a good idea to put a billet wheel - Machtavian 23:13:46 09/01/10 I wonder if that could be fixed with better cams - aliaZ 00:15:21 09/02/10 The only true fix would be to put the .70 a/r anti surge - Machtavian 10:27:38 09/02/10 Are those housing just a recirculating boost leak? - Jim (Selin Design) 11:31:22 09/02/10 kinda - aliaZ 11:46:29 09/02/10 compressor surge is due to the fact - sparkie 08:36:54 09/02/10
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