It's the same difference... we're really loosing focus on what the site is here for. Support of the Z. If that doesn't interest you anymore, then I'm not holding a gun to your head. Every day there's an average of 40 new people joining that haven't seen all the 'common' things we've all seen before. If traffic drops, so be it, we'll be back to talking Zs instead of some of the other conversation I've seen around here lately. Last year's shutdown can be nutshelled as people becoming *too* familiar with each other & bringing the chat all on here instead of through interpersonal communications. Different angle, but doesn't that sound familiar??