Subject	you're over simplifying it
Posted by	aliaZ on November 17, 2009 at 2:31 PM
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In Reply To	2nd. you want air in and out ASAP. more air=more fuel= posted by JustinSCZ32 on November 17, 2009 at 01:09 PM
Message	using your logic, you could bolt a huge compressor to a stock turbo...more air, right? Well...this extra air has to go somewhere, and that is through the exhaust housing. If the housing and/or turbine wheel is too small, you get too much back pressure, which hurts power. A bigger compressor at some point will require a bigger turbine/housing, otherwise you'll choke the engine
Follow Ups	New garret gtx-r billet turbos are coming out!!! - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 12:40:14 11/16/09 let me try that again. - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 12:43:26 11/16/09 got a link to these GTX turbos? - aliaZ 14:00:53 11/16/09 the difference between cast and billet is just - zxtuner161 14:06:21 11/16/09 I'm aware of the process differences - aliaZ 14:20:06 11/16/09 I agree on the billet thing, people have this idea it's - zxtuner161 14:30:07 11/16/09 awesome. I'll get one for each exhaust tip! (n/m) - aliaZ 14:35:01 11/16/09 Your outta luck. I just ordered them ALL!!! (n/m) - The Hawk 15:18:21 11/16/09 I'll take less noise. It means less energy lost to noise. (n/m) - MixManMash 14:44:32 11/16/09 insignificant loss I would think (n/m) - aliaZ 15:34:14 11/16/09 Maybe that's how they are making the extra 15-20% ;) (n/m) - MixManMash 15:57:16 11/16/09 touche ;) (n/m) - aliaZ 08:46:40 11/17/09 I stated it was a new 11blade wheel in my first post. (n/m) - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 15:18:28 11/16/09 if you read what I wrote it says the wheels is a diff design - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 15:16:13 11/16/09 Re: let me try that again. - Tech@EPR 14:11:33 11/16/09 no read my post. It says the new wheels are 11 blade (n/m) - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 15:17:46 11/16/09 Yep it's all about the blades this time. Big talk in the - John@Z1 08:24:31 11/17/09 Do you know what's the material used for the wheels? - SimaYi 13:05:27 11/16/09 Pretty sure aluminum. What grade I have no idea. (n/m) - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 13:13:01 11/16/09 I think inconel would be excessive on the compressor side - J-Mart 13:28:32 11/16/09 Compressor side, owned :) That's right. (n/m) - SimaYi 00:27:16 11/17/09 so by alot you mean 15-20hp on a 700+hp application? - Adam (NoVA) 13:08:36 11/16/09 15-20 percent I meant sorry (n/m) - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 13:10:54 11/16/09 just looked at the maps - holy shit. (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 13:15:18 11/16/09 wait yawn? ;) (n/m) - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 13:16:42 11/16/09 If you read what I wrote I said 15-20percent. - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 13:16:12 11/16/09 unlikely greg would see that kind of increase IMHO - aliaZ 14:27:28 11/16/09 ehh I kind of disagree. air is air. You move more of it - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 15:13:48 11/16/09 I concur. In fact, this is what GD always preaches. - The Hawk 15:21:34 11/16/09 2nd. you want air in and out ASAP. more air=more fuel= - JustinSCZ32 13:09:08 11/17/09 you're over simplifying it - aliaZ 14:31:08 11/17/09 Air is air, but it's gotta come from somewhere and it's - zgene4 15:26:38 11/16/09 yep (n/m) - aliaZ 15:36:01 11/16/09 Seems to be working on a lot of other cars already. - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 15:37:55 11/16/09 so? the billet 67 doesn't use a clipped T3 turbine - aliaZ 15:40:19 11/16/09 no it uses a t4 housing, just like the privious verision - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 15:43:45 11/16/09 right, so there is no bottleneck on the turbine side - aliaZ 15:54:40 11/16/09 im to tired to get into it with you right now. - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 15:59:38 11/16/09 What's wrong with those valves? (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 16:21:36 11/16/09 They break a lot. This is coming from one of the best head - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 16:36:13 11/16/09 let us suppose you're right (lol) - aliaZ 16:50:33 11/16/09 it's a lame attempt at discrediting my argument - aliaZ 16:36:14 11/16/09 I don't dispute that it will make more power - aliaZ 16:32:19 11/16/09 you still increase efficiency - gt300zxtt 17:18:12 11/16/09 increased efficiency of the compressor - aliaZ 17:27:08 11/16/09 I only know what I have read. I wish that GD would chime in (n/m) - The Hawk 03:29:42 11/17/09 I've learned to take what I've read on the internet - aliaZ 08:46:04 11/17/09 I concur and value your opinion, as I know.... - The Hawk 15:35:08 11/17/09 . (n/m) - collegeboy 19:52:23 11/16/09 I've heard really good things about those new turbos and - TheTwinZ (Peru) 16:09:30 11/16/09 Yeah thats an ausi company. The reason why - Antonio(AZ->NYC) 16:38:47 11/16/09
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