shoot an e-mail to me if interested. I honestly took them out b/c they were in too good of condition, i could not justify putting my shoes on them if it was raining or muddy or any sort of dirt, heh (as i have a bunk driveway at the moment everytime i get in my car to leave the house, there will be dirt on my shoes... maybe i'll start wrapping my shoes in bags until i sit in the car then take the bags off..