Subject	It is never OK to sell a forgery as authentic >>
Posted by	Ted (92TT) on April 14, 2009 at 3:48 PM
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In Reply To	not saying its ok but... posted by ricky6991 on April 14, 2009 at 01:30 PM
Message	In fact, it's a crime. Coz would have been better off using the AMS model and selling them as his own. What he should have done is contact 300 Degree about the reported problem. Or have the authentic 300 Degree rails o-ringed and sold as modified (barring any licensing issues). There is no way to spin this as not a blatant rip-off, which is what Coz himself has appologized for.
Follow Ups	Coming Clean >> - Coz@CZP 13:12:56 04/14/09 & here I thought a dog would never bite the hand that feeds. (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 13:16:18 04/14/09 somewhere, that guy weinerdogs - ZiNnYc 13:42:06 04/14/09 lol ;) (n/m) - resorb (NJ) 15:15:09 04/14/09 It's Jim, and I wonder what he's been up to. (n/m) - Barry (NJ) 15:29:56 04/14/09 He's gittin some RIMZ dawg - Eric(NJ) 17:59:24 04/14/09 Jim, Bob, same difference (n/m) - ZiNnYc 19:19:39 04/14/09 Keep this post in case something happens - njz 14:50:16 04/14/09 Thanks for clearing that up. Only time will tell how bad - Optima 13:17:31 04/14/09 Very disappointing. (n/m) - Guapo 13:18:05 04/14/09 2nd :-( (n/m) - ImTheDevil 13:22:45 04/14/09 3rd (n/m) - BeachZ 15:04:49 04/14/09 Oh dude... (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:18:17 04/14/09 I didn't even know what to say yesterday, I was so shocked - BigTDogg (MA) 08:17:32 04/15/09 Sad (n/m) - Mickie 13:19:43 04/14/09 I am truly shocked, and a little pissed off. (n/m) - zgene4 13:19:54 04/14/09 2nd. (n/m) - ZLover4Life 14:00:14 04/14/09 You low down, dirty, filthy, grimmy bastard child. (n/m) - ZRestorer 13:20:14 04/14/09 That's uncalled for... How old are you? 15? (n/m) - Optima 13:22:02 04/14/09 not really when I have a 300 degree kit from him (n/m) - ZRestorer 13:25:12 04/14/09 So get an authentic replacement from him. He said he would. (n/m) - rojoloco (San Diego) 15:53:41 04/14/09 how will customers know if they bought a fake? this is sad. (n/m) - Jason(MD) 13:20:52 04/14/09 He said in his post that his version utilized an o-ring - Dave N 13:22:24 04/14/09 Is there an easy way to check after it is already installed? (n/m) - Jason(MD) 13:27:40 04/14/09 How about contacting 300 Degree, I believe they keep track - Cap927(Boston) 13:43:51 04/14/09 Do all 300 degree rails come in boxes? - Josher 14:18:31 04/14/09 individually bubble wrapped, hardware in induvidual ziplock - Cap927(Boston) 14:26:48 04/14/09 That's great. - Josher 14:31:23 04/14/09 CZP should know by their records. If a copy was sold, - Scotts94z32 13:30:49 04/14/09 I'm suprised Coz.... - Multi_Read (MO) 13:21:45 04/14/09 Same here always had great transactions and.... - DNic41 (WA) 13:26:45 04/14/09 yup, not just copies, but sold them to customers - Ahmed (Chicago) 13:27:45 04/14/09 truly surprised...i'm speechless - Ahmed (Chicago) 13:21:46 04/14/09 Wow. Disappointing and poor business decision. (n/m) - CameronSF 13:22:32 04/14/09 Pretty Low (n/m) - Z_Pilot 13:23:46 04/14/09 Sigh. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 13:23:49 04/14/09 had them modified? - aliaZ 13:23:52 04/14/09 Yes, modified, never had one leak yet. (n/m) - Coz@CZP 13:26:20 04/14/09 so AMS manifolds are modified MS manifolds? (n/m) - aliaZ 13:50:19 04/14/09 I see your point, my apologies. (n/m) - Coz@CZP 14:19:56 04/14/09 Post a pic of the fake fuel rail. - Josher 14:29:32 04/14/09 I've posted my concerns on the fuel rails too - spyhunterTT(nj) 17:19:48 04/14/09 I'm really hoping mine are legit. - Josher 17:26:26 04/14/09 I never saw this coming - Drk93TT 13:24:03 04/14/09 Are there any other forged or stolen designs @ CZP? (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 13:24:14 04/14/09 No sir, that was the only item. (n/m) - Coz@CZP 13:25:48 04/14/09 What about the Z1 turbo kit? Inlet flange/wastegate bracket (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 14:04:37 04/14/09 its hard to believe that when a few short months ago you - Adam (NoVA) 16:25:52 04/14/09 I clicked on this for your sig, but now that I'm here - BigTDogg (MA) 09:44:53 04/15/09 Re: Coming Clean >> - ooofoo 13:25:02 04/14/09 Yup, that's exactly what it was, I'm ashamed. (n/m) - Coz@CZP 13:26:56 04/14/09 To be honest with you, I've always felt the prices of your - DVDBURN (MD) 13:41:54 04/14/09 Bummer. (n/m) - BradZ (UF) 13:25:52 04/14/09 While we're on the subject - are there any other products - Scotts94z32 13:26:49 04/14/09 We do not plan on doing this ever again, PROMISE!!!! (n/m) - Coz@CZP 13:27:45 04/14/09 you don't plan on getting caught? (n/m) - aliaZ 13:30:15 04/14/09 Bookmarked! Please mean it Coz!!! (n/m) - 5150Z 13:34:17 04/14/09 At least you apologized - Shift_(ATL) 13:28:37 04/14/09 Apology came after he was caught so it doesn't really count (n/m) - ZCulture 13:31:38 04/14/09 mabe i read it wrong but didnt 300gree sell the leaking ones - ricky6991 13:32:40 04/14/09 300Degree rails don't need orings @ the AN fittings. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 13:36:37 04/14/09 ohh ic. never owned one sorry lol. - ricky6991 13:38:54 04/14/09 Well, mine did. - Josher 14:48:19 04/14/09 I thought that the rails - Shift_(ATL) 13:38:11 04/14/09 The fact that it is being sold as authentic is the problem - Mickie 13:41:42 04/14/09 Even if that were true ... - NytWolf 13:43:16 04/14/09 Bought mine august 2008 - Drk93TT 13:49:42 04/14/09 The rings you mention are not necessary. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 14:37:36 04/14/09 Must be overkill for the fittings not to leak (n/m) - Drk93TT 15:07:47 04/14/09 not saying its ok but... - ricky6991 13:30:12 04/14/09 What testing was done to confirm this modification will - Dave N 13:39:36 04/14/09 It is never OK to sell a forgery as authentic >> - Ted (92TT) 15:48:41 04/14/09 oh boy. now who do we buy from? Kyle? (n/m) - ZiNnYc 13:30:26 04/14/09 Never would have expected this from you. Wish it wasn't so. (n/m) - ZEVAN (Ca) 13:30:57 04/14/09 Especially after Z1 called you out not to long ago. Makes - ZEVAN (Ca) 14:30:24 04/14/09 Thanks for the great service throughout the years - TTFairladyZ 13:33:57 04/14/09 It's sad, but we all sometimes choose the wrong path and - Darkfalz18 13:34:14 04/14/09 all he did was get his dick caught in the door - Adam (NoVA) 13:36:01 04/14/09 Actually no, we would have not, we purchased 50 sets >> - Coz@CZP 13:38:29 04/14/09 ding (n/m) - aliaZ 13:38:40 04/14/09 Disappointing. - Z_Cherub 13:34:23 04/14/09 This really disgusts me - na300zx (OH) 13:34:43 04/14/09 I know David, and I totally understand your decision. (n/m) - Coz@CZP 13:36:53 04/14/09 What sucks is that you probably sold it for $430 each set! - RevTech 13:37:51 04/14/09 Not ture, we got a great deal from Damon on a large order >> - Coz@CZP 13:39:33 04/14/09 So this was just a way to get 300 Degree to increase - Adam (NoVA) 09:08:53 04/15/09 So I am going to still buy from CZP.. question for COZ - Carlos Ramirez 13:38:56 04/14/09 Re: So I am going to still buy from CZP.. question for COZ - Coz@CZP 13:46:02 04/14/09 lol (n/m) - aliaZ 13:47:49 04/14/09 So how much restitution is 300deg getting? (n/m) - yobobrox 15:20:07 04/14/09 I really think the appropriate thing for you to do right now - RAGTPZ 13:39:57 04/14/09 2nd. well said. (n/m) - Darude (Orlando) 13:42:09 04/14/09 agreed, I purchased my kit from you.. - fantomZ(OH) 13:52:20 04/14/09 Why Coz, you have always been one of the - boost420 13:40:03 04/14/09 The vast mayority will buy copies anyways.. - ArubaDave 14:36:27 04/14/09 check e-mail? - fantomZ(OH) 14:41:22 04/14/09 I have bought very few (if any) items from Coz,but it really - boost420 19:31:21 04/14/09 wow...shocked doesn't even do justice to my surprise... - Gizmo 13:40:44 04/14/09 Takes some balls to come clean, so props for that. - xAzraelx[NC] 13:40:56 04/14/09 all BS aside - aliaZ 13:46:20 04/14/09 Sorry, Dave explained above. (n/m) - xAzraelx[NC] 13:46:27 04/14/09 It's not an impovement because - EZdusit (cali) 18:07:53 04/14/09 Oh wow... Coz... of all people! The question is... - 91Z32TT 13:46:38 04/14/09 Re: Oh wow... Coz... of all people! The question is... - jschrauwen 21:40:04 04/14/09 Quit it Jon. - ni[X]it 18:57:01 04/15/09 Two problems that I see - RICH1 13:47:21 04/14/09 I sincerely would like to know...> - 5150Z 13:47:36 04/14/09 Thank you, and I swear to run CZP as I did back in the day. (n/m) - Coz@CZP 13:49:28 04/14/09 It would be the same if AMS put MSP on their manifolds (n/m) - Mickie 13:49:56 04/14/09 I disagree - then any malfunction of the AMS product - TT XTZ 13:53:46 04/14/09 I think he saying this deal is worse for that very reason (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 14:18:32 04/14/09 Yeah - Mickie 18:16:35 04/14/09 This is IMO worse than what AMS did. - na300zx (OH) 13:50:31 04/14/09 he got caught - aliaZ 13:52:50 04/14/09 While I can understand that feeling, - TT XTZ 14:02:18 04/14/09 Huge 2nd. As well as the objective part. I've never spent - xAzraelx[NC] 14:06:10 04/14/09 otherwise known as self-preservation - aliaZ 14:10:56 04/14/09 Obviously then, you're accusing Coz of lying...> - 5150Z 15:16:56 04/14/09 He already showed what kind of business decisions he's will- - yobobrox 15:19:21 04/14/09 I certainly don't disagree with what you've said...> - 5150Z 15:40:00 04/14/09 pretty much - aliaZ 15:37:46 04/14/09 Fair enough.......thanks Don! (n/m) - 5150Z 15:41:54 04/14/09 Funny - the spin was lost on me - - TT XTZ 16:12:26 04/14/09 no worries - aliaZ 07:20:15 04/15/09 Improvements or not... - SuparexTT 18:24:46 04/14/09 Agreed. You and Guapo get it. (n/m) - yobobrox 15:17:44 04/14/09 Well put. (n/m) - 91z tt 14:22:22 04/14/09 spin control (n/m) - Guapo 14:31:59 04/14/09 Entirely possible, and my head isn't in the sand. - TT XTZ 14:38:47 04/14/09 They fall under different laws - NytWolf 13:54:45 04/14/09 ummmm - Ahmed (Chicago) 13:55:09 04/14/09 Oh so its ok For COZ to scam but Z1 is still terrible.. - Z_Pilot 17:40:18 04/14/09 Interesting perspective. - jschrauwen 18:37:20 04/14/09 Coz is in no way getting off light - SeedyROM 19:39:05 04/14/09 Pretty quick with the amended sig - lol. - jschrauwen 21:26:12 04/14/09 Oh? What is my focus on? - SeedyROM 23:06:28 04/14/09 Must be the self-appointed custodian of morals and ethics - jschrauwen 23:56:29 04/14/09 Damned if you do, damned if you don't. - SeedyROM 01:36:37 04/15/09 Thanx for coming clean - de944 13:55:18 04/14/09 Dude...... - Trailboss 13:56:00 04/14/09 ugh...ultimately disheartening. (n/m) - Adam(Phoenix) 13:57:55 04/14/09 Didn't Z1 accuse you of copying there turbo kits too? - komplexZTT 13:59:18 04/14/09 Re: like the brackets for the wastegates - DVDBURN (MD) 14:08:16 04/14/09 Yeah, there had been speculation of other copied parts - SeedyROM 19:42:43 04/14/09 Actually, it looks like they were just listed>>> - SeedyROM 19:53:44 04/14/09 D'oh: - TT XTZ 09:35:45 04/15/09 Who cares. Does the product work or not? - luke21 14:01:41 04/14/09 lol.... (n/m) - ali300zx 14:04:07 04/14/09 2nd - na300zx (OH) 14:07:09 04/14/09 You should change your sig (n/m) - canyoncarver 14:49:46 04/14/09 Just because AMS looks morally superior to Coz - na300zx (OH) 18:06:15 04/14/09 lol... - ZiNnYc 19:37:07 04/14/09 If by adding CZP to it, I just might do that on mine - SeedyROM 20:00:45 04/14/09 Yes, it works, I will post later in the week the differences (n/m) - Coz@CZP 14:05:17 04/14/09 You're not looking into this far enough. - 91Z32TT 14:05:56 04/14/09 Mine could have leaked fuel. - Shift_(ATL) 14:07:49 04/14/09 Please explain if I'm wrong... (n/m) - Shift_(ATL) 14:09:09 04/14/09 Stick to oil, because you know nothing about ethics, morals, - Scotts94z32 14:19:07 04/14/09 Incidents like this destroy the foundation of progress - boost420 14:21:34 04/14/09 No he didn't. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 14:41:26 04/14/09 Wow - I hope you're joking. (n/m) - TT XTZ 14:43:58 04/14/09 LOL I know nothing of whats going on. - luke21 21:32:11 04/14/09 The reason why this is a big deal .... - The Devils Z 00:42:09 04/15/09 nice summary of the big picture (n/m) - Guapo 09:13:50 04/15/09 On a positive note Coz - - 91Z32TT 14:02:37 04/14/09 you have it reversed. (n/m) - SuparexTT 14:07:01 04/14/09 I don't think I do. (n/m) - 91Z32TT 14:08:45 04/14/09 so what you're saying is... - SuparexTT 14:19:35 04/14/09 What? That's not what I'm saying at all (n/m) - 91Z32TT 14:22:39 04/14/09 Yeah you do, - -JK- 15:34:11 04/14/09 Again, not what I was saying > - 91Z32TT 17:18:47 04/14/09 Faulty logic. It wouldn't be a stretch for a customer - Dave N 17:31:24 04/14/09 Nice rationalization but on my last order from Coz I was - 240Z FeO2 14:10:03 04/14/09 he'll give you the invoice if you ask for it. (n/m) - SuparexTT 14:20:55 04/14/09 You bet I asked for an invoice. That's how I verified the - 240Z FeO2 14:30:08 04/14/09 Once a bold faced fraud is committed, an apology can never - 240Z FeO2 14:05:56 04/14/09 don't forget,it took a letter from a lawyer to make him stop (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 14:10:23 04/14/09 Damon did not confront me, I would have stopped either way. (n/m) - Coz@CZP 14:16:56 04/14/09 Then why did you start?Just to come clean and ruin your rep? (n/m) - yobobrox 15:15:53 04/14/09 In the same vein, people praise Coz for fessing up, but - 240Z FeO2 14:18:11 04/14/09 Ding ding ding ding ding!!! (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 14:23:41 04/14/09 Damage control? Do you see damage control here?? (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 19:18:46 04/14/09 Wow, very shocked! - RRyderTT 14:07:43 04/14/09 Since I can't resurrect the dead nor can I walk on water, - Cap927(Boston) 14:09:08 04/14/09 I agree (n/m) - RRyderTT 14:14:32 04/14/09 Dude... : ( (n/m) - AbsolutZ 14:14:54 04/14/09 Having only purchased from you in person and... - Adam(Phoenix) 14:26:15 04/14/09 I apologize to you Adam, never wanted to hurt anybody. (n/m) - Coz@CZP 14:45:48 04/14/09 wow. not in a million years did i see this comming. (n/m) - AntiHero 14:27:02 04/14/09 Very surprising. - Polish 14:38:06 04/14/09 God Dammit - lazer(NV) 14:38:35 04/14/09 I would agree with you, and aplogize. (n/m) - Coz@CZP 14:45:10 04/14/09 I've bought multiple times from CoZ and has always been - surf1punk 15:15:45 04/14/09 You should apply at Z1, im sure they will hire you..... (n/m) - Nostype2 14:47:30 04/14/09 ...at least it'd help their customer service ;) (n/m) - SuparexTT 14:52:25 04/14/09 Makes no sense - ArubaDave 14:53:01 04/14/09 Wow. Just wow..CZP=Z1=AMS - eriksu9 14:59:52 04/14/09 Stupid, Just stupid. - Jason300zxTT 15:05:48 04/14/09 Youve got mail one year ago (n/m) - Drk93TT 15:08:48 04/14/09 Re: Youve got mail one year ago - Jason300zxTT 15:59:39 04/14/09 These look an awful lot like z1 smic's - ali300zx 15:11:45 04/14/09 Re: These look an awful lot like z1 smic's - ali300zx 15:14:57 04/14/09 Probably bought from the same manufacturer Z1 used - ArubaDave 15:20:55 04/14/09 Re: Probably bought from the same manufacturer Z1 used - ali300zx 15:28:27 04/14/09 lol @ coz's costing more then Z1 (n/m) - AntiHero 16:05:45 04/14/09 Copies (n/m) - Russell@Z1 15:37:35 04/14/09 oh boy.. (n/m) - fantomZ(OH) 15:40:05 04/14/09 Copied the intercoolers also?...Oh boy.. - eriksu9 15:48:32 04/14/09 he also tried to dupe Ash's Massives (n/m) - aliaZ 15:52:18 04/14/09 How do you know? (n/m) - eriksu9 16:01:00 04/14/09 ask Ash (n/m) - aliaZ 16:04:14 04/14/09 at least they don't say they are Z1 and aren't - AntiHero 15:54:23 04/14/09 The main point is............. - EZdusit (cali) 17:28:34 04/14/09 Not saying CZP copied them, however if he didn't it should - Russell@Z1 17:24:00 04/14/09 First Class Russell! (n/m) - Z_Pilot 17:58:51 04/14/09 I hate to throw fuel to the fire - TTFairladyZ 22:06:52 04/14/09 You lost my business and my recommendation. (n/m) - yobobrox 15:12:10 04/14/09 Big disappointment Coz. Greedy or stupid... take your pick. - Ted (92TT) 15:13:07 04/14/09 2nd, previously almost untouchable... now, ugh. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:31:35 04/14/09 The twinturbo.net dinner at ZCon will be interesting this yr (n/m) - Tu 15:21:36 04/14/09 Have been thinking the same thing. (n/m) - ArubaDave 15:23:07 04/14/09 ... - fantomZ(OH) 15:35:23 04/14/09 don't hold your breath, i've been waiting months (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 15:42:54 04/14/09 2d (n/m) - zoom 17:30:17 04/14/09 Are you going to Zcon this year? We should catch up - kuah@splparts.com 15:39:24 04/14/09 If you are going then I am going :-) - ArubaDave 15:44:06 04/14/09 you don't go to z-con - Adam (NoVA) 16:45:59 04/14/09 So true, - ArubaDave 16:51:42 04/14/09 Heh - is it time to replace another giant suitcase yet? ;-) (n/m) - TT XTZ 17:18:51 04/14/09 I deleted my earlier post. Fraud is fraud ... (n/m) - ConVerTT 15:29:06 04/14/09 Thanks :D It disappeared when I went to respond to it! - yobobrox 15:35:21 04/14/09 Wow... (n/m) - turtleboy 15:32:15 04/14/09 So how are you going to make this right? - Josher 15:32:58 04/14/09 uuuhh, he did...swap out any "modded units" for 300D ones. (n/m) - SuparexTT 15:36:02 04/14/09 Then he should pay me for the inconvience of it all. - Josher 15:50:15 04/14/09 yep (n/m) - aliaZ 16:24:32 04/14/09 Consumers are crazy. I can say that after 9 years in retail. - SuparexTT 16:25:27 04/14/09 I agree with you to a point. - Josher 17:14:07 04/14/09 If i bought fake diamond... - SuparexTT 17:35:31 04/14/09 Okay. I'm going to agree to disagree. - Josher 17:51:04 04/14/09 What about R&R time? I think that's called pain and - Scotts94z32 17:00:07 04/14/09 Exactly. - Josher 17:23:48 04/14/09 If her diamond is fake, then you, your NY distributors, - Scotts94z32 18:40:40 04/14/09 i liked that. (n/m) - SuparexTT 19:14:40 04/14/09 lol @ "good day" (n/m) - Josher 22:57:32 04/14/09 Now what ? this sucks :( (n/m) - ztunerz 15:40:47 04/14/09 That's pretty low. - zfreak(Dallas) 15:41:18 04/14/09 Sad to see. - JC (Vegas) 15:44:17 04/14/09 I have never voiced my displeasure here with him over a - Gold Z 15:47:13 04/14/09 Shouldn't bite the hand that feeds. - -JK- 15:47:58 04/14/09 holy... (n/m) - Arnel(z32racing.com) 15:51:46 04/14/09 At least he Manned up and admitted it. (n/m) - josh 15:54:28 04/14/09 still a bitch move. - Jason300zxTT 16:02:36 04/14/09 big difference between a knockoff and a fake - AntiHero 16:10:11 04/14/09 Nothing manly about counterfeiting. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 16:35:29 04/14/09 He Manned up and admitted to his ACTIONS. (n/m) - josh 17:11:12 04/14/09 After he was caught. Manly. (n/m) - yobobrox 17:15:02 04/14/09 damn - collegeboy 16:07:55 04/14/09 then email him. He said he would IF they're non300D. (n/m) - SuparexTT 16:11:01 04/14/09 Re: damn - Jason300zxTT 16:12:32 04/14/09 Truly disappointing Coz. Not sure what the future holds. - rojoloco (San Diego) 16:19:34 04/14/09 IMO, not worth the time and money on 300Degree's part. - SuparexTT 16:28:26 04/14/09 Agreed. I'm all for handling at the lowest level possible. - rojoloco (San Diego) 23:03:51 04/14/09 Kyle at IPP of course. (n/m) - zfreak(Dallas) 22:00:15 04/14/09 Big 2nd. (n/m) - apudapus 01:37:59 04/15/09 lol - aliaZ 16:23:13 04/14/09 wow...I remember that thread...and - Gizmo 16:26:59 04/14/09 LOSEr! - Spongerider :) 16:30:43 04/14/09 Busted! - Spddracer 16:48:16 04/14/09 For pushing Southbend clutches over RPS? - Piranha(PHX) 19:51:27 04/14/09 As he should. (n/m) - Spddracer 20:13:46 04/14/09 And this one really says it all: - yobobrox 17:19:06 04/14/09 ban? (n/m) - Jason300zxTT 17:37:11 04/14/09 Ouch! That was a perfect time to come clean... - rojoloco (San Diego) 23:18:49 04/14/09 Unbelieveable. - ZDUCTIV 16:36:20 04/14/09 Sorry don't get it. - Spddracer 17:23:01 04/14/09 Epic Fail (n/m) - ZXRider(SoCal) 17:34:41 04/14/09 Re: Coming Clean >> - Z300Z 18:00:38 04/14/09 Are you seriously trying to back Ash? - SuparexTT 18:46:09 04/14/09 Are you trying to back Coz? (n/m) - boost420 19:33:18 04/14/09 where i have i said that? i haven't. (n/m) - SuparexTT 20:02:30 04/14/09 Purely asking, as it does appear from your response - boost420 20:19:38 04/14/09 they are merely points to be made. (n/m) - SuparexTT 20:28:33 04/14/09 I see (n/m) - boost420 11:15:35 04/15/09 Re: Are you seriously trying to back Ash? - Z300Z 20:11:37 04/14/09 no worries they are modified Garretts. (n/m) - SuparexTT 20:30:01 04/14/09 Unreal. (n/m) - Zleepertt(MD) 18:15:05 04/14/09 Oh boy! (n/m) - TheTwinZ (Peru) 18:38:45 04/14/09 Wow this is sad.... - AndrewZ (MO) 18:39:12 04/14/09 SPLparts and IPP come to mind. - Scotts94z32 18:42:27 04/14/09 2nd...I would add Specialty-Z to the list. (n/m) - TheTwinZ (Peru) 18:44:55 04/14/09 I can talk about IPP and Speciality. - boost420 19:36:50 04/14/09 Big parts - of course SZ. I was thinking more like - Scotts94z32 00:32:06 04/15/09 Totally agree, I used Kyle, most recently, for - boost420 11:31:51 04/15/09 I highly recommend Kyle @ IPP, SPL Parts, and SZ - BigTDogg (MA) 07:55:32 04/15/09 "where to go now for trust worthy and quality products?" - jschrauwen 18:59:51 04/14/09 wrong again troll (n/m) - zgene4 19:08:18 04/14/09 2nd (n/m) - EZdusit (cali) 21:25:32 04/14/09 At the rate you guys are black-listing vendors - jschrauwen 00:03:33 04/15/09 John, I haven't blacklisted anyone and am free to do - zgene4 23:08:13 04/15/09 Me too. That's the beauty of being a customer without - jschrauwen 23:22:21 04/15/09 basically you are looking for the lowest price. - EZdusit (cali) 18:27:31 04/16/09 This is the saddest part of the whole thing. At least Coz - Piranha(PHX) 19:13:38 04/14/09 I wouldn't put Coz ahead of AMS that easily - SeedyROM 20:04:50 04/14/09 oooooo, you should change your sig too. (n/m) - canyoncarver 20:09:38 04/14/09 See below, I plan on adding CZP - SeedyROM 20:12:59 04/14/09 ygm (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 20:40:09 04/14/09 Really? Do you ever stop choking on Vuks penis? - boost420 19:39:36 04/14/09 You don't eat with that same mouth, do you? - jschrauwen 05:28:16 04/15/09 I only talk like that to douchebags that deserve it, - boost420 12:10:17 04/15/09 This illustrates that you are a douche, why would - boost420 12:15:11 04/15/09 Are we finished? - jschrauwen 22:15:44 04/15/09 Sure (n/m) - boost420 23:11:49 04/15/09 He's never done, the troll has to get the last word - BigTDogg (MA) 17:35:59 04/17/09 Seriously? I think you're lost here. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 21:54:37 04/14/09 Nothing wrong with any of Vuk's products Bernie. - jschrauwen 05:30:51 04/15/09 Vuk's products or Vuk's load??? - BigTDogg (MA) 07:57:31 04/15/09 Tony, I see a pattern - jschrauwen 02:05:01 04/16/09 Focus on landing planes there chief (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 12:56:53 04/16/09 I'll agree to disagree. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 10:21:43 04/15/09 Fair enough Bernie (n/m) - jschrauwen 02:06:00 04/16/09 I'm curious about something - na300zx (OH) 19:32:57 04/14/09 Re: I'm curious about something - Audicon 20:10:42 04/14/09 Just because he would've stopped doesn't mean he - na300zx (OH) 20:24:14 04/14/09 Ahh. Guess I should have read more closely - Audicon 21:27:23 04/14/09 Sad day indeed! - SoloCon [ProjectZ32.com] 19:35:13 04/14/09 Well said! I agree at least he is TRYING to fix the problem - Piranha(PHX) 19:50:00 04/14/09 yea.. wow. If things continue this way we wont have - fst300zx 20:04:26 04/14/09 Re: Coming Clean >> - uz32tt 20:08:46 04/14/09 Oops! Will you be selling the copies at discount lol? (n/m) - 550HPTT 20:10:16 04/14/09 Where's my uncut Ti key from Zcon 2006? (n/m) - ni[X]it 20:21:49 04/14/09 lol (n/m) - na300zx (OH) 20:34:46 04/14/09 Another one bites the dust... - SeedyROM 21:35:17 04/14/09 2nd link says post was deleted. (n/m) - Eric(NJ) 21:48:58 04/14/09 Bah, basically... - SeedyROM 23:00:22 04/14/09 Whatever, sleep soundly tonight. - TriniTT 21:37:17 04/14/09 Well said, and very true... (n/m) - sumva_z 21:59:56 04/14/09 If you can excuse outright fraud, sure. (n/m) - Guapo 22:01:16 04/14/09 Why support someone who does this? - zfreak(Dallas) 22:05:00 04/14/09 Agreed - well said. (n/m) - jschrauwen 22:07:18 04/14/09 go play in traffic - nissansx 22:23:35 04/14/09 Be nice newb :) (n/m) - jschrauwen 22:53:37 04/14/09 really? - aliaZ 23:39:15 04/14/09 That's not what he said. - jschrauwen 23:47:43 04/14/09 so you wouldn't be pissed? (n/m) - aliaZ 23:57:36 04/14/09 Of course I would. - jschrauwen 00:06:07 04/15/09 here's my take on it - aliaZ 00:20:27 04/15/09 Now that's something I can agree with - jschrauwen 05:23:31 04/15/09 this line confuses me... - Atl300zxTT 22:19:45 04/14/09 You use the word "you" a lot in reference to something - TriniTT 23:10:13 04/14/09 You obviously don't have a set under your hood - ConVerTT 23:00:39 04/14/09 wow. the safety issue makes it even worse. - KasbeKZ 23:14:08 04/14/09 Severity of the offense must not mean a damn thing to you. - SeedyROM 23:19:57 04/14/09 To be fair... - SeedyROM 23:27:53 04/14/09 This could be considered a "1st Offense." - SuparexTT 01:08:27 04/15/09 I can see people thinking that. What a first one though! (n/m) - SeedyROM 01:16:30 04/15/09 go to bed =) (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 01:18:52 04/15/09 Some of us work at night, bud! - SeedyROM 01:39:51 04/15/09 Get to work then LOL (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 01:55:04 04/15/09 Re: Whatever, sleep soundly tonight. - Z300Z 07:12:09 04/15/09 Sorry to hear Coz. Hope this is all cleared up in time. - dregos 22:01:20 04/14/09 I'm saddened by a broken trust, but I'll still buy from Coz - Gordo 93TT Daytona 22:17:52 04/14/09 There's also the old adage ... - Guapo 22:23:37 04/14/09 As you should, if that's the dictate of your conscience. (n/m) - Gordo 93TT Daytona 22:34:48 04/14/09 You can pretty much say that about anything. - ZiNnYc 02:31:25 04/15/09 Agree w/ you about the business model; and if this were an - Gordo 93TT Daytona 09:37:34 04/15/09 COZ is da man! Guess we won't be hearing that as often now.. (n/m) - Yoshi 22:18:38 04/14/09 wow... - rave 01:56:03 04/15/09 Re: Coming Clean >> - r0lex4u 02:56:16 04/15/09 I think most of the vendors are douche bags. - Dane (Houston) 04:18:31 04/15/09 How many copies did you sell??? - DbestiZ1 06:38:12 04/15/09 :( (n/m) - Broke_as_**** 07:29:57 04/15/09 so distasteful. but not on the level of murder like some - robo (sebring1970) 07:40:11 04/15/09 agree with the murder bit.... - Gizmo 08:21:50 04/15/09 False. Copying an engineered part without care and - ConVerTT 09:09:58 04/15/09 There's some heavy liability with the copies, heavy. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 09:40:57 04/15/09 Re: Coming Clean >> - ouikikazz 07:46:00 04/15/09 Wow, I'm very sad and disappointed to read this. - boileralum 08:47:37 04/15/09 Rule #1 ... - ConVerTT 09:11:25 04/15/09 Thief. (n/m) - Summeronthechain (MN) 13:31:32 04/15/09 Re: Thief. - TJudgeIII 22:43:15 04/15/09 never offer discounts to "retain" people. - SuparexTT 22:56:45 04/15/09 Re: never offer discounts to "retain" people. - TJudgeIII 00:22:31 04/16/09 Time is the only healing with this. Sides are already chosen (n/m) - SuparexTT 02:53:31 04/16/09 forgiven, not forgotten - moxie (SF) 03:39:22 04/16/09 Sucks but you learned from it. Still a great vendor to me. - Milo (SATX) 11:59:13 04/16/09 That is the dumbest thing you ever said on this board. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 13:37:30 04/16/09 lol (n/m) - Guapo 13:39:34 04/16/09 Sigh. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 16:08:59 04/16/09 my thoughts exactly Milo !!!!!! (n/m) - steamyz. 19:31:26 04/16/09 Should I be worried? - Andrewhuffman 22:51:59 04/16/09 Oh the irony... (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 17:28:49 04/17/09 you're an idiot (n/m) - aliaZ 21:01:23 04/17/09 lol, once a dumbass, always a dumbass. - Spee 03:08:49 04/18/09
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