I don't believe I ever said he didn't. Unfortunately his business practices got the better of him and his business wasn't able to endure. I wouldn't say his manifolds are anything to drool over though. I believe the AMS ones are better. Why can I make such a statement? - Because I own a set of MSP manifolds and I've seen the AMS ones. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to be of the perspective that I like to bash or hate MSP manifolds or Mike Smith for that matter. Not true, they are a great manifold. As for Mike Smith, I've never met the person and it's not my place nor do I have the right to condemn or put down someone I never met or know anything about. I can only form an opinion (like everyone else here) and surmise that his company came to an unfortunate demise because of a number of factors that were years in the making anyways. It was inevitable. It's also unfortunate that so many members feel the need to lash out when they can't get others to fall in line with the party favourite. Those free thinking people should be applauded for standing their ground and for not being intimidated by a few foul mouthed individuals.