Subject	Mike has just barely covered his R&D and tooling costs.....
Posted by	Greg D. (Specialty-Z) on March 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM
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In Reply To	Should have worded it better, I just have always thought posted by 550HPTT on March 10, 2009 at 06:45 PM
Message	The material Mike used (High silicon moly ductile iron) drastically increased the cost over what he could have used. Over time cheaper materials will snap studs with the expansion and/or crack. His margin at this point makes the product not worth producing. He honestly has not profited from selling these to this point. Mike is a GREAT guy and would go out of his way for anyone. It is truly a shame he could not make a reasonable profit on this project after all his hard work :-(
Follow Ups	CrAzY MSP Manfifold Super sale *Group Buy* - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 16:15:47 03/10/09 Thanks Greg! (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 16:22:22 03/10/09 Gregg, I just bought 2 sets. Will show up as 2 separate - SlicktopTT 16:23:05 03/10/09 only an idiot would pass on this while doing an engine build (n/m) - The Devils Z 16:23:40 03/10/09 Well isn't that wonderful - Spddracer 16:32:45 03/10/09 unlucky... (n/m) - Pilot.P (NZ) 17:11:40 03/10/09 That and bad timing... - Spddracer 18:14:06 03/10/09 maybe Greg can forward the savings on to you - blacksc 19:06:00 03/10/09 2nd - Pilot.P (NZ) 19:21:33 03/10/09 3rd - gt300zxtt 19:27:33 03/10/09 I did not sell Joe his set.......If he asks the dealer that - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 19:40:15 03/10/09 2nd. Spddracer did not say anything about buying his MSPs - davidztt 20:04:31 03/10/09 glad i used pronouns :P (n/m) - gt300zxtt 01:01:19 03/11/09 I didn't buy them from Greg. - Spddracer 20:06:08 03/10/09 I spoke with Mike and Charles can offer you a - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 20:21:17 03/10/09 Thanks Greg - Spddracer 20:33:22 03/10/09 So, are you going to give a 2 week price match now? (n/m) - dpjax 06:11:02 03/11/09 I will always take care of someone if I throw something up - Spddracer 11:36:58 03/11/09 Talk agout great service! (n/m) - induetime 20:53:50 03/10/09 No kidding! (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 12:07:26 03/11/09 wow, impressive...great vendor (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 08:29:06 03/11/09 Now there's service that you don't see every day. - CatnipZ (FL) 11:42:52 03/11/09 If the price just went up $100, - SactoTodd 11:16:46 03/11/09 LOL, I have to admit that's not a bad point. (n/m) - davidztt 01:16:42 03/12/09 I never asked for a refund nor did I expect one. (n/m) - Spddracer 10:30:54 03/12/09 Damnit - can't do it now but that's an amazing price. (n/m) - AbsolutZ 16:34:37 03/10/09 dang i wish i could! (n/m) - Halo Z 16:43:31 03/10/09 you could buy some for me:) (n/m) - john90zxtt(OH) 19:38:00 03/10/09 it's not that i don't have a need for them... yet.. - Halo Z 19:42:58 03/10/09 wait, how the, what? - jzx 16:43:45 03/10/09 w00t! - ZXRider(SoCal) 16:48:21 03/10/09 Greg to the rescue! thanks for saving me from crazy thoughts - FuerGrissa 16:50:46 03/10/09 2nd haha (n/m) - ZheKing 17:25:42 03/10/09 Re: CrAzY MSP Manfifold Super sale *Group Buy* - ouikikazz 16:54:10 03/10/09 I gotta do my tax return and see what I'm getting back! (n/m) - Barry (NJ) 16:55:10 03/10/09 Turning this into a annual motor pull thing? (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 18:10:04 03/10/09 Nah, I'd just hang on to 'em for a while ;~) (n/m) - Barry (NJ) 20:42:37 03/10/09 Buy em and bring them down here. I have a garage I can work - Eric(NJ) 21:26:53 03/10/09 Wow, your own garage? Movin' up in the world I see ;~) - Barry (NJ) 00:00:21 03/11/09 I'm in. (n/m) - jmw23712 16:56:04 03/10/09 I almost want to get another set, seeing how I got mine - BigTDogg (MA) 17:01:59 03/10/09 Got mine already, but thanks for the sweet deal on the - phillyz 17:16:08 03/10/09 Me too. Almost two years now. (n/m) - jschrauwen 20:36:37 03/10/09 I think I'm in...I just want these little voices screaming - TheTwinZ (Peru) 17:17:05 03/10/09 I'm in. will go great with my SZ downpipes and test pipes (n/m) - ZheKing 17:25:24 03/10/09 I will be buying a set before this expires! - induetime 17:32:04 03/10/09 Jerk - zgene4 17:36:48 03/10/09 I will be ordering a set in a few weeks at that price! (n/m) - moxie (SF) 17:54:07 03/10/09 couldn't wait a week... just picked some up! - moxie (SF) 21:00:30 03/10/09 Makes you wonder the dealer price on them... (n/m) - 550HPTT 18:00:22 03/10/09 Shrug. - Bernie (NoVA) 18:11:20 03/10/09 Much less than we were paying for them also (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 18:14:51 03/10/09 Should have worded it better, I just have always thought - 550HPTT 18:45:21 03/10/09 Mike has just barely covered his R&D and tooling costs..... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 19:04:10 03/10/09 I agree 100% but... - The Hawk 19:21:48 03/10/09 2nd. - Halo Z 19:24:18 03/10/09 I have had a few items made and know the process well - 550HPTT 21:08:14 03/10/09 you seem to pop off at the mouth with your own opinion - Halo Z 21:55:51 03/10/09 And.... - Spddracer 20:24:07 03/10/09 Yup. I was amazed by the quality fasteners myself :) - collegeboy 21:55:00 03/10/09 Exactly - collegeboy 21:50:52 03/10/09 I can agree with a bit of what you say but not all products - 550HPTT 06:17:26 03/11/09 Definitely a shame. - TT XTZ 14:07:40 03/11/09 Couldnt blame him... (n/m) - John B. (NJ) 16:56:39 03/11/09 that's an amazing price I'm in thanks Greg - z32hp*700* 18:08:54 03/10/09 Thanks! Just sent you a payment :) (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 18:20:42 03/10/09 Great price for a great product,wish i could get in on it - blacktwin 18:29:27 03/10/09 Almost makes me want to buy a Z so I can have a reason - LordZ 18:29:45 03/10/09 Greg/Seb I will be calling you tomorrow - Jason300zxTT 19:18:43 03/10/09 2nd (n/m) - dream Z (MD) 20:31:06 03/10/09 Hey man - Crazy Greek 21:18:56 03/10/09 wow. wow. wow. decisions, decisions. - S.Watson 19:33:44 03/10/09 Re: wow. wow. wow. decisions, decisions. - JSD-ZX 20:01:36 03/10/09 They will make a difference even with stock turbos. (n/m) - 600ZXR 20:31:23 03/10/09 Re: They will make a difference even with stock turbos. - induetime 20:59:34 03/10/09 I have them with stock turbos. - chicagozer 08:58:26 03/11/09 I've been told that the manifolds will help the Sport 500's - S.Watson 05:16:30 03/11/09 I most certainly have to reshuffle some things. - JSD-ZX 15:00:33 03/11/09 The message posted by jschrauwen on 19:51:23 03/10/09 was removed by the members on 20:29:08 03/10/09 I'm interested, but will that new casting design fit other - davidztt 19:55:35 03/10/09 Yes, The casting change was done to add more - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 20:02:55 03/10/09 My first models fit your turbo kit with VERY VERY minimal - collegeboy 21:53:40 03/10/09 Im saying goodbye to my ported stock manis :) Thanks SZ (n/m) - strida 20:28:26 03/10/09 curses! just got mine last month - vorpalZ 20:35:36 03/10/09 hmm at that price it makes me want to - Carlos Ramirez 20:37:05 03/10/09 Thankfully Noltec engine mounts suck so much. - John B. (NJ) 20:40:20 03/10/09 Just bought a set with the egr bung and pipe for an - boost420 20:49:14 03/10/09 Since Greg let the cat out of the bag already - Kyle(Houston) 21:55:44 03/10/09 I hate you... :-) - Only1Z 22:17:54 03/10/09 2nd, that deal has been jumping off the page at me - Halo Z 22:22:59 03/10/09 I'm afraid to do my taxes, because I know I'll direct - BigTDogg (MA) 08:40:33 03/11/09 damn you kyle - Ahmed (Chicago) 07:30:46 03/11/09 1 week after i bought a 2nd hand new set of AMS units. YaYa. - SuparexTT 23:00:42 03/10/09 I hope your ams units crack in half. (n/m) - John B. (NJ) 23:14:29 03/10/09 You keep thinking that. - SuparexTT 00:29:34 03/11/09 Keep thinking what? - John B. (NJ) 08:01:56 03/11/09 Simple solution; Sell the turds to some 3ZC clown - BigTDogg (MA) 08:27:24 03/11/09 Re: Simple solution; Sell the turds to some 3ZC clown - Z300Z 10:51:42 03/11/09 Good idea! (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 15:41:57 03/11/09 Some things are better kept to yourself (n/m) - boost420 20:48:16 03/11/09 grrr... ordering a set next week. - zfreak(Dallas) 08:03:17 03/11/09 Great buy is right Greg!!! - eriksu9 08:06:35 03/11/09 NOOOOOO I need to sell my Z. - Multi_Read (MO) 08:35:39 03/11/09 Don't suppose you have any info on MSP cast intake pipes? - ZDUCTIV 10:18:05 03/11/09 I've been told not to hold my breath. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:25:06 03/11/09 Thought this might be of interest to some here: - ZDUCTIV 00:38:26 03/12/09 Ugh, I don't want them that bad. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 07:14:55 03/12/09 Likewise - ZDUCTIV 09:21:55 03/12/09 How about a group buy/special on the 4 bolt new - 300twinz (satx) 14:37:30 03/11/09 I would be 100% in on that GB (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:46:15 03/11/09 me 2. (n/m) - S.Watson 15:59:31 03/11/09 me 3rd. (n/m) - induetime 00:51:00 03/12/09 Do you need flex joints added if you have SZ down and - AnimalZTT (TX) 15:13:08 03/11/09 You're fine without them - BigTDogg (MA) 15:45:39 03/11/09 Flex joints were a strong suggestion... - SeanK (StL) 17:25:35 03/11/09 IIRC, they were a requirement for the warranty on the - BigTDogg (MA) 08:24:14 03/12/09
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