Subject	Why so defensive? It's a simple question.
Posted by	AZ-ZBum on December 23, 2008 at 10:17 PM
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In Reply To	CNRacing is a duplicator in China, they make AMS manifolds. posted by Bernie (NoVA) on December 23, 2008 at 09:57 PM
Message	What evidence do you have to back up your claims? It seems to me that there is a limited amount of space in the engine bay of the Z32 to put TT manifolds. Thus, any manifolds are naturally going to be similar in design. I'm not saying you aren't right. But just saying so doesn't make it so. It seems to me everyone is quick to say they're copies, but no one is providing any real proof. The closest anyone has come, actually points to them being different. When All Else Fails, RTFM http://www.az-zbum.com
Follow Ups	Z community related: - Z_Cherub 16:03:29 12/23/08 ugh - Tikigod (Denver) 16:57:01 12/23/08 Re: Who cares what anyone thinks.... - MGH 17:01:19 12/23/08 Lol, some of those people are delusional - na300zx (OH) 16:57:52 12/23/08 That was my impression from the outset, - Z_Cherub 19:12:35 12/23/08 "the differences are far more substantial" - jschrauwen 10:01:28 12/24/08 The point <----------------------------------> You - BigTDogg (MA) 10:07:08 12/24/08 Just so you know, the reason I never respond to your - na300zx (OH) 17:19:32 12/24/08 i'm surprised that hasn't been deleted yet - Ahmed (Chicago) 17:02:49 12/23/08 Re: i'm surprised that hasn't been deleted yet - MGH 17:10:26 12/23/08 Lol, that is the sad part - na300zx (OH) 17:24:19 12/23/08 Re: Censorship is why I don't go to 3zc anymore. - MGH 18:14:04 12/23/08 Are you an admin on 3ZC? If so, please email me and - Dave N 18:46:44 12/23/08 you've been "used by Tony"? - ZEngineer 18:58:17 12/23/08 ...and that explains the rash that won't go away too. (n/m) - Dave N 19:02:01 12/23/08 Just dip it in the deep fryer, that'll fix everything - BigTDogg (MA) 13:13:35 12/24/08 Here's a shocker....my SN is the same there as it is here. - Dave N 13:15:03 12/24/08 Re: Are you an admin on 3ZC? - MGH 19:21:51 12/23/08 Thanks. (n/m) - Dave N 19:22:52 12/23/08 lol...wtf? (n/m) - aliaZ 20:37:25 12/23/08 That was my first reaction as well. Not that I really care - Dave N 23:18:16 12/23/08 indeed (n/m) - aliaZ 23:46:09 12/23/08 lock your taskbar Dave ;-) (n/m) - Madhatter10-6 22:23:37 12/23/08 Yup, should call the place 300ZXCommunism, what a bunch - BigTDogg (MA) 09:34:16 12/24/08 lol. Almost as good as your Nissan-Renault rants... (n/m) - Z_Cherub 11:07:11 12/24/08 So why do you seem to care so much? - AZ-ZBum 11:20:55 12/24/08 Because 3ZC is the breeding ground for misinformed - BigTDogg (MA) 11:29:25 12/24/08 Re: Because 3ZC is the breeding ground for misinformed - AZ-ZBum 11:42:05 12/24/08 Nice defense "oh, the truth wasn't admitted till now" - BigTDogg (MA) 12:52:17 12/24/08 Re: You can't pick and choose your rights. - AZ-ZBum 14:27:30 12/24/08 You talk about it with intelligence instead of censorship. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 14:33:01 12/24/08 I agree completely. - AZ-ZBum 15:34:11 12/24/08 LOL @ not intelligent, *sigh*, n00bs - BigTDogg (MA) 09:20:13 12/25/08 I'm still waiting for an explanation for why *I* was banned. - Dave N 12:22:15 12/24/08 Maybe you are over their max age limit of 17? (n/m) - SactoTodd 13:12:26 12/24/08 LOL! That must be it. (n/m) - Dave N 13:15:43 12/24/08 *IQ (n/m) - ZiNnYc 14:08:46 12/24/08 LOL wear it as a badge of honor... I've been banned there - Piranha(AZ) 13:33:07 12/24/08 Multiple accounts are not allowed. - AZ-ZBum 14:21:55 12/24/08 LOL, you're funny :) (n/m) - jschrauwen 12:26:09 12/24/08 F'ing dhu... *Hugs* (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 12:53:14 12/24/08 Re: If you're a mod over at 300ZXCommieville... - MGH 14:24:01 12/24/08 Are you a mod over at 300ZXCommieville??? - BigTDogg (MA) 09:16:40 12/25/08 Mine is a tad funnier. - ZiNnYc 14:37:40 12/24/08 I've seen people get banned for calling out AMS. - Waggz 20:40:39 12/23/08 First, that doesn't happen... - AZ-ZBum 21:22:01 12/23/08 when the AMS manis post happened - Ahmed (Chicago) 21:31:26 12/23/08 there's a difference between slander and opinion. - AZ-ZBum 21:35:25 12/23/08 why is the definition of slander over there - Ahmed (Chicago) 21:39:43 12/23/08 do you know what slander means? - aliaZ 21:40:52 12/23/08 And it would actually be libel since it is in writing. (n/m) - rojoloco (San Diego) 11:38:50 12/24/08 It's a fact. - Bernie (NoVA) 21:46:23 12/23/08 First, I'm not defending AMS... - AZ-ZBum 21:52:40 12/23/08 CNRacing is a duplicator in China, they make AMS manifolds. - Bernie (NoVA) 21:57:07 12/23/08 Why so defensive? It's a simple question. - AZ-ZBum 22:17:55 12/23/08 Answer me this - If I went to 3ZC and stirred up this much - Bernie (NoVA) 22:23:08 12/23/08 Z Cherub did. He isn't banned. - AZ-ZBum 22:29:26 12/23/08 *sigh* - Z_Cherub 22:43:42 12/23/08 Yes. The manifolds and AMS seem to be a sore subject. (n/m) - AZ-ZBum 22:58:14 12/23/08 Starting to see why? - Z_Cherub 23:03:42 12/23/08 I just read the whole post @ 3CZ - ZCherub isn't stirring. - Bernie (NoVA) 22:59:23 12/23/08 game. set. match. (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 07:33:56 12/24/08 you're a dim bulb - aliaZ 22:58:09 12/23/08 Not at all. I'm just not a Z32 owner. - AZ-ZBum 23:10:17 12/23/08 For most people, common sense tells them that water is wet - aliaZ 23:31:01 12/23/08 You don't own a Z32, but you have reason to post here? (n/m) - SactoTodd 23:52:39 12/23/08 You may note the 300ZX registry is something I did. - AZ-ZBum 00:09:30 12/24/08 I may also note.... - Multi_Read (MO) 09:13:21 12/24/08 You were insulted by that? - AZ-ZBum 10:23:06 12/24/08 lol registry. - SactoTodd 11:17:14 12/24/08 What's wrong with a registry? - AZ-ZBum 11:20:14 12/24/08 We definitely do not get along online... - rojoloco (San Diego) 11:49:55 12/24/08 With so many 300ZXs made, it will never be close to complete - SactoTodd 12:29:23 12/24/08 The VIN database is complete. - AZ-ZBum 14:19:46 12/24/08 I use it to make sure a VIN matches the real car.*thumbs up (n/m) - SuparexTT 10:34:04 12/25/08 You are as ignorant on here as you were on z31.com years ago - ENVYMYZ 10:50:03 12/24/08 And what was I ignorant about on z31.com? - AZ-ZBum 11:28:18 12/24/08 Nobody is going to spoon feed you information when you - ENVYMYZ 13:05:58 12/24/08 Skirting the issue, huh? - AZ-ZBum 14:17:07 12/24/08 Why are you always insulting people? Try acting like an - turtleboy 00:39:47 12/24/08 2nd. Make your point sans name-calling (n/m) - ali300zx(Irani) 00:52:11 12/24/08 I'll try my hardest since it's Christmas (n/m) - aliaZ 00:53:36 12/24/08 that's the spirit. have some eggnog (n/m) - ali300zx(Irani) 00:58:58 12/24/08 ...and rum. (n/m) - SuparexTT 10:35:09 12/25/08 ...and Crown (n/m) - aliaZ 14:42:41 12/25/08 "Saying the AMS manifolds are copies is slanderous." (n/m) - Janders 22:19:58 12/23/08 It would have to be false to be considered slander. - Agner.S(MD) 23:09:10 12/23/08 How you remember pants in the morning is beyond me (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 09:38:15 12/24/08 I don't. I have to search the house for them. - AZ-ZBum 10:31:18 12/24/08 What if the post reads "I THINK AMS copied MS?" - rojoloco (San Diego) 11:37:48 12/24/08 I don't see why it would. But I'm not a site administrator - AZ-ZBum 11:46:01 12/24/08 Interesting thread you have there in the 3z moderator forum. - ni[X]it 12:06:07 12/24/08 What thread? What about? - AZ-ZBum 12:19:01 12/24/08 sigh - aliaZ 21:35:13 12/23/08 Please update your profile with your occupation. (n/m) - ni[X]it 21:48:59 12/23/08 Is that in the site rules? Yours isn't filled out either. (n/m) - AZ-ZBum 21:53:46 12/23/08 Bingo!!! Thats exactly why they banned me. - Ballistic 22:16:56 12/23/08 And yet your profile here contains all that information. - AZ-ZBum 22:23:59 12/23/08 If it makes you feel any better... - Z_Cherub 22:54:54 12/23/08 I was informed that actions would be taken if I didn't fill - Waggz 23:03:15 12/23/08 Exact same thing happened to me - na300zx (OH) 06:43:20 12/24/08 i got a warning for not having "IL" in mine - Ahmed (Chicago) 07:30:57 12/24/08 that is just silly (n/m) - aliaZ 09:34:03 12/24/08 Yes. A little. But we can't really make exceptions, can we? - AZ-ZBum 10:34:18 12/24/08 but when does common sense kick in? - Ahmed (Chicago) 10:48:50 12/24/08 Common sense, LOL, we're talking about 3ZC here man, hahaha (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:02:56 12/24/08 That's a good question... - AZ-ZBum 11:32:21 12/24/08 okay, now that i have provided that Chicago is in Illinois - Ahmed (Chicago) 11:43:48 12/24/08 Is it hurting you to have it in there? - AZ-ZBum 11:48:34 12/24/08 It is not a simply REQUEST. It is a simple DEMAND. - rojoloco (San Diego) 11:57:39 12/24/08 I was Anonymous for 4 years on 3ZC. - 96300NAZ 12:31:32 12/24/08 put the nearest major city then. - AZ-ZBum 14:13:58 12/24/08 It is still pointless and violates the right to anonymity. - rojoloco (San Diego) 14:34:43 12/24/08 Hey. If they don't want to post, they can leave it empty. - AZ-ZBum 15:30:02 12/24/08 Or you can stop being a Democrat... - rojoloco (San Diego) 15:37:59 12/24/08 that's a damn dirty lie! - AZ-ZBum 16:50:51 12/24/08 :) (n/m) - rojoloco (San Diego) 17:22:59 12/24/08 Then why bother putting a City at all? - 96300NAZ 14:44:10 12/24/08 If you're in Rhode Island? Sure. Texas? I don't think so. - AZ-ZBum 15:21:31 12/24/08 You're not making any sense... - 96300NAZ 15:44:25 12/24/08 makes sense to me... - AZ-ZBum 16:45:36 12/24/08 That would beg the question of WHY? - AZ-ZBum 12:31:48 12/24/08 It's amazing what you can do with... - rojoloco (San Diego) 12:45:49 12/24/08 lol - Z_Cherub 12:54:51 12/24/08 lol, that was hilarious (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 13:25:42 12/24/08 No one asks you to put your name. - AZ-ZBum 14:09:16 12/24/08 go look at the top post on 3ZC right now in general - Ahmed (Chicago) 14:14:45 12/24/08 So you want to be a tattletale? - AZ-ZBum 14:32:27 12/24/08 Do you get how large of a douchebag you sound like? (n/m) - ZiNnYc 14:40:15 12/24/08 thanks for being such a smartass - Ahmed (Chicago) 14:48:57 12/24/08 And what is the point in that? - rojoloco (San Diego) 14:24:53 12/24/08 Okay. You find a name and location in the classified ad... - AZ-ZBum 14:51:20 12/24/08 You are missing my point. - rojoloco (San Diego) 15:13:49 12/24/08 This does raise the question... - AZ-ZBum 15:26:18 12/24/08 Still missing the point. - rojoloco (San Diego) 15:34:28 12/24/08 Maybe 5 or so total... - AZ-ZBum 16:36:50 12/24/08 I hear what you are saying about following the rules but... - rojoloco (San Diego) 17:26:02 12/24/08 yes it hurt me because i got a warning - Ahmed (Chicago) 11:57:42 12/24/08 Nope. Warnings don't mean anything. - AZ-ZBum 12:12:04 12/24/08 Youre the one that got pissy. - Ballistic 07:39:20 12/24/08 Re: Let he who turns his own wrenches cast the first stone. - MGH 07:58:43 12/24/08 It was a simple request that you kept debating - AZ-ZBum 11:17:51 12/24/08 Did not debate. I ignored you. - Ballistic 12:11:43 12/24/08 I can't touch anyones profiles. - AZ-ZBum 12:16:01 12/24/08 Bull. My profile was changed. Sleezy at 3Z isnt it? (n/m) - Ballistic 12:22:52 12/24/08 I, meaning me, CAN NOT CHANGE YOUR PROFILE! - AZ-ZBum 14:05:40 12/24/08 ya, they only come here when they want to hack in - Ahmed (Chicago) 12:28:15 12/24/08 I really don't care. - AZ-ZBum 14:04:45 12/24/08 so you agree they censor the posts if it's negative - Ahmed (Chicago) 14:20:08 12/24/08 Some will. Some won't. - AZ-ZBum 14:45:24 12/24/08 Speaking of mods and admin, - Ballistic 12:45:10 12/24/08 Here's a little secret... - AZ-ZBum 14:07:56 12/24/08 Heres a better idea: - Ballistic 22:02:34 12/24/08 It does and it did. - Waggz 22:58:27 12/23/08 Really hard to defend the admin's call then. - AZ-ZBum 23:25:21 12/23/08 It was me, make it any easier? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 09:43:25 12/24/08 ahh look, it's sweetie! (n/m) - Halo Z 23:09:24 12/23/08 Tell me why I was banned for 3 months? (n/m) - dpjax 23:30:32 12/23/08 You must be friends with Tony (BigTDogg). :-P (n/m) - Dave N 23:34:44 12/23/08 Lol, any mention of Tony gets edited out - na300zx (OH) 06:45:23 12/24/08 You were told to let it go... - AZ-ZBum 00:22:57 12/24/08 what subject? (n/m) - aliaZ 01:07:16 12/24/08 And you are calling ME the dim bulb?!?!?! - AZ-ZBum 03:16:02 12/24/08 You guys are a bunch of little babies. end of story. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 04:26:04 12/24/08 well said. (n/m) - Ballistic 07:46:13 12/24/08 tsk tsk - aliaZ 09:30:50 12/24/08 So you admit they were stolen. Glad we're making progress. (n/m) - Kenny 08:57:27 12/24/08 the mods at 3ZC are so ban happy - aliaZ 09:26:47 12/24/08 AZ-Zbum I see you are from Phoenix... don't think I know you - Piranha(AZ) 13:19:55 12/24/08 DZA and I had a big falling out a few years ago. - AZ-ZBum 14:15:55 12/24/08 I got banned for saying the mods ban people for nothing. - rojoloco (San Diego) 11:34:20 12/24/08 So you expected it and are complaining about it? - AZ-ZBum 14:39:02 12/24/08 "Of course"? - ZiNnYc 14:48:36 12/24/08 I'm guessing because this is an intelligent conversation? - AZ-ZBum 15:10:44 12/24/08 F YoUR REGISTRY!!!! - ZiNnYc 15:33:34 12/24/08 I've used it quite a lot actually, as have many members - TriniTT 16:24:28 12/24/08 i agree, it can be useful. (n/m) - SuparexTT 12:19:29 12/25/08 I actually didn't expect to get banned. - rojoloco (San Diego) 15:25:39 12/24/08 It doesn't take a genius to figure out why I was there - na300zx (OH) 06:47:57 12/24/08 Re: It doesn't take a genius to figure out why I was there - MGH 07:37:39 12/24/08 What does that make me? - na300zx (OH) 08:07:54 12/24/08 Re: I am failing to see your point anyway - MGH 08:49:47 12/24/08 Ok. - na300zx (OH) 08:59:43 12/24/08 Re: See...now how hard was that. (n/m) - MGH 09:02:46 12/24/08 Really hard - na300zx (OH) 09:06:48 12/24/08 I've done buisness with Dave, and he's a man of his word - BigTDogg (MA) 10:28:13 12/24/08 Not to state the overlooked obvious, but tt.net censors too - TriniTT 16:28:39 12/24/08 i'm happy it was left there mike (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 18:39:43 12/23/08 If they think tt.net is harsh ... - NytWolf 18:26:15 12/23/08 lol @ "tt.net hurts my eyes because of their layout" - ZEngineer 18:45:16 12/23/08 I find myself over there more and more. - ShakaShaun(Denver) 20:09:50 12/23/08 I think the majority of the posts on here DO - Z_Cherub 20:36:30 12/23/08 It's a "true enthusiast" thing... - BradZ (Go Gators!) 20:56:35 12/23/08 k (n/m) - Z_Cherub 22:11:44 12/23/08 Hmm.. - Spongerider :) 20:38:12 12/23/08 My dealings with Z1 were based on customer service alone - ShakaShaun(Denver) 20:46:17 12/23/08 You're entitled to your opinion and your view is from a - Spongerider :) 12:22:46 12/24/08 little factual evidence? - aliaZ 20:40:43 12/23/08 I don't know why people here get so worked up over two - turtleboy 20:41:44 12/23/08 Same reason people there get worked up over - Z_Cherub 21:04:46 12/23/08 I guess I should have worded that differently - turtleboy 21:07:48 12/23/08 That was kind of my point over there in the original thread. - Z_Cherub 22:50:02 12/23/08 It's just a forum. (n/m) - BradZ (Go Gators!) 20:47:26 12/23/08 Re: Z community related: - D-JAY 22:48:43 12/23/08 Haha. I was wondering how long it would be before someone - Z_Cherub 22:56:44 12/23/08 did everyone miss this. look closer. - 5280Z_nightstalker 00:39:32 12/24/08 sweet, "Z" capped fart cans. (n/m) - SnowManZ(rebuilding finally) 00:58:11 12/24/08 Nice car if I say myself. - canyoncarver 01:01:25 12/24/08 wilwood bbk? Nice (n/m) - ali300zx(Irani) 01:05:09 12/24/08 at the end of the day, the real Z32 innovators - ZiNnYc 04:31:20 12/24/08 TTnet innovation is still alive. - ni[X]it 08:19:32 12/24/08 Good to hear some have weathered the storm =) (n/m) - SeedyROM 15:28:16 12/24/08 BTW, I'd put money that her SN is - na300zx (OH) 07:30:56 12/24/08 Huge loss for TT.net. - ZiNnYc 14:50:53 12/24/08 ? (n/m) - Z_Cherub 16:20:23 12/24/08 She didn't do anything wrong - na300zx (OH) 17:40:36 12/24/08 Big 2nd. (n/m) - Z_Cherub 17:49:45 12/24/08 Well boys. It's been fun. Thank you. - AZ-ZBum 16:59:07 12/24/08 You're gay (n/m) - ZiNnYc 02:22:19 12/25/08
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