Subject	I'm sure it's been in other discussions since then,
Posted by	Z_Cherub on October 10, 2008 at 8:07 AM
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In Reply To	not sure if we are talking about the same things but... posted by gt300zxtt on October 10, 2008 at 01:15 AM
Message	but this... "As the exhaust goes back and cools it seems not to need as much room as it condenses. We make both full 3 inch test pipes and also 3 inch test pipes that cone back down to 2.5" so that one can see most of the gains and keep there old 2.5" cat backs. We did a test on my car going from full 3 inch to coning back to a 2.5" catback system and I kept all the early gains of going 3 inch and only lost 13 RWHP after 6000 RPM with coning back down to 2.5". The cars do feel faster with 3 inch catbacks, but the dyno shows some of it must be the sensation of the sound!" Is more or less what I was remembering. I would have looked it up myself, but I'm always on here at "work" :) Thanks.
Follow Ups	ok, please entertain my TT swap thoughts... - Halo Z 17:17:36 10/08/08 I really know nothing about engine internal-type mods - TT XTZ 17:35:46 10/08/08 yes and no.... - Halo Z 18:57:09 10/08/08 That's because the way I install dual pops actually works. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 01:41:57 10/09/08 care to elaborate, or trade secret? (n/m) - AntiHero 08:26:43 10/09/08 I've detailed it on several occasions. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 09:04:59 10/09/08 nice to know that. (n/m) - Halo Z 10:04:01 10/09/08 Option A and 15psi - enjoy it. Don't do too much cosmetic - Scotts94z32 17:44:40 10/08/08 jspec front, tails, 3rd brake sitting in the garage - Halo Z 18:59:56 10/08/08 Track events = rock chips. Plan that into your budget or - Scotts94z32 10:53:04 10/09/08 that power level is quite reasonable on stock turbos (n/m) - Guapo 17:51:38 10/08/08 what is the hax hp on stock turbos? - Halo Z 19:03:24 10/08/08 there are people getting over 400 rwhp on stockers - Guapo 22:19:48 10/08/08 I put down 380hp/420tq at 18psi on stockers - sfarrah 02:58:40 10/09/08 In your 95^ TX heat without overheating? 310rwhp, IMO. (n/m) - Scotts94z32 10:54:33 10/09/08 Bah. We dont have piss gas ... yet - Guapo 10:56:59 10/09/08 3nd on stock motor and MSM/530BB's. (n/m) - Dave N 18:02:17 10/08/08 Ha ha ha silly dave 3nd (n/m) - 5280Z_nightstalker 00:24:18 10/09/08 ?? Would 4st or 5rd been a better choice? (n/m) - Dave N 12:48:04 10/09/08 Agree with Guapo. Keep your stock turbos, upgrade - zellamay 18:22:34 10/08/08 yeah, i would prety much do everything you have listed - Halo Z 18:49:19 10/08/08 you can still use cats if you use quarterpipes. - gt300zxtt 19:38:02 10/08/08 Well you could go the route that I'll be taking which is - Musashi Sword 19:14:31 10/08/08 im just kicking it around - Halo Z 19:17:17 10/08/08 Forget cams. - John B. (NJ) 19:15:29 10/08/08 budget isn't really much of an issue - Halo Z 19:22:53 10/08/08 Well in that case... - John B. (NJ) 06:31:00 10/09/08 If I would have known you were considering this, you could - RAGTPZ 20:55:33 10/08/08 Stock motor, MSMs, 530s (n/m) - Ballistic 21:02:06 10/08/08 keep the stock turbos - 93Z32Driver 21:34:09 10/08/08 Re: ok, please entertain my TT swap thoughts... - Rickytl (ma) 22:24:11 10/08/08 thank you for the info. (n/m) - Halo Z 10:11:12 10/09/08 It's too easy t - Willfastbackse 07:54:20 10/09/08 no aftermarket turbos will spool faster? - gt300zxtt 09:03:03 10/09/08 I think he means at low rpm, they spool quicker, and - zellamay 12:59:31 10/09/08 i was screwing around - gt300zxtt 01:21:04 10/10/08 you got it right w/your comment here - The Devils Z 08:48:49 10/09/08 i agree with the BB statement - gt300zxtt 09:15:47 10/09/08 "they feel into my lap" ... Sig quote, anyone? - Z_Cherub 09:34:35 10/09/08 well there are always few trains of thought - gt300zxtt 11:29:54 10/09/08 From what I've read, the increases in efficiency - Z_Cherub 12:44:54 10/09/08 I have not seen one dyno where a full 2.5 inch system - The Devils Z 12:50:49 10/09/08 Not saying it made the same power, - Z_Cherub 14:41:39 10/09/08 other way around (n/m) - The Devils Z 15:00:17 10/09/08 I AM sure that it wasn't a 3" DP/TP combo w/ a 2.5" catback. (n/m) - Z_Cherub 15:56:06 10/09/08 From what i recall... - John B. (NJ) 16:42:35 10/09/08 this is what i agree with - gt300zxtt 01:35:05 10/10/08 Ok, sorry, I must have misread what you said originally... - Z_Cherub 07:59:55 10/10/08 perfect - gt300zxtt 09:35:53 10/10/08 lol@me - Z_Cherub 10:14:20 10/10/08 not sure if we are talking about the same things but... - gt300zxtt 01:15:52 10/10/08 I'm sure it's been in other discussions since then, - Z_Cherub 08:07:27 10/10/08 500s, MSM, ICs, SSDPs, DP, WI, 740s, BC, AFC (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:08:08 10/09/08 i like how a "normal" person would consider what - Ahmed (Chicago) 13:12:03 10/09/08 ditto! (n/m) - Halo Z 14:41:39 10/09/08 LOL - SlowZ(SD) 14:56:34 10/09/08 Not normal, we like to call them... "outsiders" :-) (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:23:36 10/09/08 That was so damn funny. (n/m) - Musashi Sword 21:46:59 10/09/08 You can't beat low end with a setup like this (n/m) - na300zx (OH) 13:35:03 10/09/08 AFC's are second best. Tuned ecu ftw (n/m) - AntiHero 15:33:08 10/09/08 Nistune > Flashed custome ECU > AFC, IMO of course (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:48:12 10/09/08 An AFC is "needed" to go with the dual pop - na300zx (OH) 18:46:16 10/09/08 You can do it with a JWT ECU (not EPROM) and Nistune - BigTDogg (MA) 06:46:22 10/10/08 I'd say the same as BigTDogg, except go 530's... - MannyB 18:33:07 10/09/08 I got my 500's used, so they were even cheaper - BigTDogg (MA) 06:48:24 10/10/08 would you be interested in a stroker kit for - ztunerz 11:32:03 10/09/08 not really. but thanks Harry. - Halo Z 14:42:59 10/09/08 :) (n/m) - ztunerz 22:47:56 10/09/08 Option A (n/m) - John@z1 11:42:07 10/09/08 2nd, then you can add other things later - NSANY(ATL) 16:46:41 10/09/08
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