| I have nothing to gain nor have I ever supported Ash, I'd love to know how that makes me a party for or against the Anti-Ash crusade that is waged here with such zeal. I said you bitch about bitching, not that you're for or against Ash. Don't over-complicate the issue here =). It's never about anything of substance it's just the fact that he is around and is perceived to steal the thunder from others I can only presume. Which is enough to ignite those few, their cronies, and those looking to suck up to the both. Maybe it's the fact that people send him money, and don't get products in a timely fashion? I love how asking for folks to cut out the drama and exposing the motives for the drama = more drama, that's your excuse for this behavior? I'm actually taking a page out of your book - I'm bitching about your bitching. The difference is, this is your rule and my exception. Standard red herring. I'm not the one jumping into a thread about exhaust gizmos (by some small time vendor) with unspecific demands to correct an unspecific "problem" that is new to no one, and to anyone here is readily apparent with three clicks worth of searching on this forum. Anyone can see what his issues are on any forum, but for some reason HERE, it isn't enough, it has to be a crusade to stamp him out. I wonder why that is, what could make it so much more important here than everywhere else? You spent an entire paragraph above arguing you were neither for nor against Ash, and here you are making a defense for him. Make up your mind =). You can ramble on with your overly elaborate responses in your standard-issue, predictably condescending tone, but in the end it does nothing more than serve as dress up for standard childish insults, provocations, and pettiness. You couldn't be more transparent, well you could, but in some petty ego-serving way I guess this is like showing-off for you. Whatever floats your boat Kenny. I understand your need to argue my criticism of you is only a personality flaw on my part, as opposed to a valid observation, but you really should consider my point. Pretend someone else posted it, if that helps. Listening to you accuse someone of trying to manipulate others' words is like listening to Roseanne Barr lecture someone on physical fitness and tact. Gimme a break.... This analogy doesn't serve to refute my position that your behavior is just as territorial as those constantly harassing Ash. They harass, you counter-harass, it's the same thing, you're just doing it to more people. Anyone in the Z community who spends anytime on any of the forums knows exactly what the deal is here. So don't get pissed at some of us when we don't feel instantly obligated to indulge in the groupthink or otherwise implied indoctrination that some of you seem to believe is a pre-requisite to reside/make-input here. I'm pissed? I think you overestimate my emotional investment in this discussion, so I'll spell it out for you. I see Ash post, I see people complain about his poor customer service, and then I see you showing up to cry about their crying. Like always. So I observe. Then you play semantics, and here we are. Some of us aren't interested in acting like a pissy asshole at the very mention of an "unapproved" vendor, even if it is on the consequence-free internet. Surely you recognize the irony of positing my replies are nothing but a vehicle to make immature jabs, then rounding out your argument with that little gem. Ash's "unapproved" status is his own doing. He's going to be harassed, that's his own doing as well. Your crying about it only serves to add to the pointless noise, and your efforts are in vain. Nobody cares enough about your counter-crying to stop criticizing Ash for his poor customer service. These exchanges only serve to categorize you in the same lot of those seeking to bemoan XXX for XXX. Congratulations, you're one of them ;).
Recursively Yours,
Kenny...
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