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Subject You mean so they can be copied?
     
Posted by SeedyROM on March 09, 2008 at 11:27 PM
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In Reply To Evidence? posted by Summeronthechain (MN) on March 09, 2008 at 10:54 PM
     
Message I'm not that naive, thank you. Evidence of wrong-doing does little to change your mind so why would I out existing vendors here for your benefit? You can, however, email me and I'll steer you in the right direction.

-This is a direct impact of Z1 selling AMS products?
No, not Z1. A direct impact of AMS copying brand new products so quickly.

-Or it will force the biggest Z32 distributor to downsize, limiting their ability to serve the community, hurting the community even more.
Do you work for Z1? There are 5-6 active companies that have progressed the Z32 vastly over the years and instead of worrying about their well-being, you're worried about the the only one with 100+ threads full of complaints, a hack/exploit attempt and various other issues?

Facts are facts, they are the biggest distributor of Z32 parts, I bet a big majority of all MS mani's are sold through Z1.
My first statement illustrates that Z1 is a trusted vendor and has contributed greatly to the Z community.

The size of a company in no way dictates their trust level. How can you say they are the most trusted after this week and the last few years of posts?

Also, what have they contributed that others haven't? I can name three other companies that have put out many more products that have pushed this scene far further. What do you use to gauge "contribution"? It sounds like raw company size and sales volume is all you have here.

My second statement has little do with my first, but was to illustrate that they are helping support MS more than they are hurting him by selling AMS products.
This much is true, but at what cost? Sure, a large parts seller selling your product is always great but that doesn't necessarily benefit us consumers. It sounds like you're showing compassion for the innovator (MS in this case) but again, that's short term thinking. Hey may never even release his intercooler piping because of the very same entities that will bring his other product to market.

Mike is in a really shitty position where he has to bow to make any money back. I'm not trying to pick on you here but just trying to explain that we have to pick our battles. many of us feel Z1 doesn't deserve to be fought for given how they treat customers, other vendors and site owners. All things equal, why not help the guys who have never lied and have a proven good record? Is that so wrong?


Avoid Z1 Motorsports - Hacked our forum to delete years of proof about service complaints, questionable ethics and lies about inventing products.
Avoid AMS Products - Killing Z32 product innovation, one quickly copied Chinese part at a time.
SoCalZCrew.com - On a more positive note, come find out how we do it in the West!

     
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